Tokyo Douglas vs Rocky Marciano

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  1. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Who wins and how?

    Educate me.
     
  2. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i don't really know.

    maybe marciano comes without the baggage that tyson had, and wears him down and finishes him where tyson couldn't.

    maybe douglas puts on the same show but against a slower footed guy without the shot to put him down, and runs out a clear decision, or even stops rocky on cuts/damage.

    rocky v douglas fantasy fight i'm picking rocky, that specific douglas performance might even make him the fav, in my eyes anyway.
     
  3. McGrain

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    Douglas has a 15" reach advantage by Boxrec. That is a foot plus in reach advantage. He has a 5" height advantage. He has a forty pound weight advantage.

    Marciano is special enough that he could beat good fighters with these type of advantages IMO. He is also good enough to be competitive with GREAT fighters with less exceptional but still significant size advantages.

    In Tokyo, Douglas put on one of the great big man performances. I just can't see a small cruiserweight of any quality beating him personally.
     
  4. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That seems very reasonable McGrain. It is over a 30 lb. differential, & yes, Rocky was great, but he never fought a great big man (if only for one night) or any great slugger, the bane of great swarmers.

    he beat still pretty great boxers.
     
  5. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    If Tokyo Douglas got off the floor to beat Tyson he can do it to Rocky. Why not? Douglas really was something that one night. Would I bet on it? No. How can you?

    James Douglas who fought Tucker would implode against Rocky however. Marciano would take his heart. But it would be late rounds, proberbly after 12.
     
  6. Baby-Faced Bum

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    Good question. Maybe the Rock has got that different kind of head movement that Tyson didn't? Douglas was awesome, but you'd have to say Tyson was sub-par.
     
  7. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Douglas wouldn't live with Marciano for 15 rounds, I'd put money on it.
     
  8. nikrj

    nikrj Active Member Full Member

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    Tokyo Douglas = GOAT

    :D
     
  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Oh boy .. what a threat .. wait till ****goose shows up .. :lol:
     
  10. he grant

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    Oh boy .. what a thread.. wait till ****goose shows up .. :lol:
     
  11. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Tyson wasn't at his best in Douglast fight.

    Marciano can take a punch and won't gass out, so I'd go with Rock by KO in 8-11rds.
     
  12. Ned Merrill

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    At 220lbs Tyson was in excellent physical condition and demonstrated it rumbling with the bigger man through the first 7 or so rounds, which were fought at a brisk pace. Its hard to picture Rocky losing to anyone, given that we never saw him lose. But Douglas had perhaps, the best legs we saw, since Ali, save for Holmes, to that point in 1990, when in his best fighting condition. And he demonstrated that he could be damned quick with the footwork and fast with his fists. Again, spiritually tuned to the matter, Douglas proved he could go with any man in history that fateful 1990 night...his history and rep be damned.

    I have a hard time envisioning Marciano getting past the athletic, great and even borderline great premium sized heavyweights of the 70's and beyond, even up until today. I believe many would give him something to think about, in many areas, and you see some things happen that would be unfathomable.

    I'd bet Douglas would use his left jab, those legs, the same angles we saw with Tyson and the willingness to step up the two-handed combinations, more and more after the typical slow Marciano start. The big question wouldn't be whether Marciano could take his punches, I'm sure he could (to a certain point) and he's likely prove it over the first four rounds where I think he'd be dropped. No, the big question to me is whether his skin tissue would hold up.

    Douglas TKO6
     
  13. he grant

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    Tyson was far from his best .. physically he was in ok shape but mentally he was falling apart .. part of the post Spinks free fall .. that being said, he was still a dangerous man and Douglas fought an exceptional fight using speed , size, movement and power rarely seen before or since by anyone .. a monster of a fight by a 6'4", 235 pound very skilled guy with an 83" reach ..
     
  14. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Douglas was really a one-fight wonder and I think a lot had to do how unready Tyson was that night, it was a shock but Tyson was ripe and ready to be picked. Marciano would be in condition and was not the type of guy to fizzle after 8 rds, Tyson was. Lightning does not strike
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Marciano never faced anything like the Douglas that showed up in Tokyo. A systematic beatdown.