Told you....Hatton already considering rematch 6 days later.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by db2431, Dec 14, 2007.


  1. heidegger

    heidegger Guest

    Please dont let this fight happen. Floyd says he is conscerned about his legacy. A rmatch with Hatton does NOTHING for his legacy. Not does a fight with DLH really, imo, with DLH being 'over the hill'. Fight Cotto. Nothing else will do.
     
  2. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This fight will never happen, i am not saying it could be a money spinner, it just wont appeal to Floyds people and i am not sure Hatton knows himself really if its in his best interests. The wounded Hatton is very raw after his loss and dented pride makes him a but vulnerable to wanting absolute revenge immediately , but in hindsight, he has no real business at Welterweight..
     
  3. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    Of course he does. Don't know about Cotto (would make one hell of a fight), but the De La Hoya fight in Wembley next summer has already been discussed as a possiblility and would only require a confirmation from both sides to happen.

    Also, Cotto would definitely take him if it meant the winner got a shot at Mayweather Jr.

    Don't know if it's all about heart. He knows a rematch isn't very likely in the near future.
     
  4. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    This should've been realized after the Collazo fight:deal :-(
     
  5. Ziggy Montana

    Ziggy Montana The Butcher Full Member

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    And how are promoters and the broadcaster supposed to sell Hatton/Mayweather II after Hatton being outboxed decisively and kayoed?
     
  6. heidegger

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    No he doesnt.

    Hatton will not fight Cotto, that is a baad match for him, Cotto will murder him.


    This was discussed prior to the PBF fight. Hatton has since been outboxed and KTFO. DLH has little intrest in Floyd sloppy seconds.


    He would, but that's not a likely scenario. A welterweigh 'eliminator' would be fought with Margarito or Williams.

    Enough of these big welter names and Hatton. Hatton should go to 140 and fight Magic Man or Witter.



    Don't know if it's all about heart. He knows a rematch isn't very likely in the near future.[/quote]
     
  7. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hmmm the mans on to something:deal :happy :happy Oh you forgot he also had is ass handed to him in probably the greatest display of a fighter being clowned all year..its close.. Jermain "blame my trainer"Taylor is a close runner up after being put to sleep then having to be slapped awake only to ask if he got knocked out :lol: :lol: :D
     
  8. Akxtinguish

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    That's hardly a problem. You've seen what the media did before the fight, they can definitely pull it off again.

    I can see the headlines already. "Ricky's Revenge", "Mayweather comes to Manchester" (and he'd be wearing that Manchester United top again)

    They would fix the fight in England, either Manchester or Wembley open air. The media would run articles about how the last win was "controversial", and Hatton had the home advantage this time around.

    Of course, both fighters will be sounding confident (Mayweather: I'll hurt him even more this time, Hatton: Flloyds going to regret fighting away from his home crowd (home judges/referees etc.. ) )

    The public is going to get hyped up again (PBF has never fought away from home, Hatton was nervous last time).

    Sky and HBO will do what they usually do. Expect many repeats of the 8th december fight on television (by the way BBC are repeating it this weekend).

    Finally, there's always the undercard (throw in Maccarinelli, Alex Arthur, Rees, anybody)

    Fights like this really aren't that hard to sell.
     
  9. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    More hilarity...I don't think brits are dumb enough to buy it a second time around..Great ideas on how to boost the sport as well throw in anybody on the undercard?? Good job :happy :happy :happy This proves stupidity is certainly a disease spreading quickly where your from...the ambassador from the Fatton wonderland speaks:-( :-(
     
  10. db2431

    db2431 Member Full Member

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    This man sees human nature clearly, nice read.Rematch is a formality, just when and where now.
     
  11. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Hatton would fight completely differently if they were to meet again.
    Wev'e all seen Ricky pile on the pressure to other fighters, sometimes he's just ploughed forward like he did against Mayweather but lesser men have'nt been able to make him pay.

    Wev'e also seen Ricky box his way in and take very little punishment to get inside his opponent. He failed to do this in Vegas and walking straight in against Floyd was suicide. There are mitigating reasons behind Hatton fighting the wrong fight last week.

    The one hour delay to the fight had Hatton burning up too much energy.
    He was way too hyped up.
    He was ready too early, IMO probably two weeks too early.
    He boxed with too much emotion and threw out the strategies that he trained to use.
    The early cut had him boxing anxiously
    Cortez's handling of him within the first 5 seconds of the fight.
    The point deduction.
    The failure by Cortez to stop Mayweather dipping below waist height.
    The failure by Cortez to stop Mayweathers illegal use of the elbow.
    Mayweather handled the occasion better than Hatton and credit to him for that it's part of what makes him Great.

    There were other aspects of the night which were'nt in Hattons favour and if they were changed he would have a better chance, such as:
    Being at home
    A smaller ring size
    Boxing at his own weight
    An ability to handle the occasion.

    These are all things that challengers have to live with so I have no complaints that Mayweather, as Champion, should be able to dictate these aspects in the fight.
    If we are talking about how Hatton could do better in a rematch then these things have to be considered.

    Mayweather looked a class apart and maybe he would win again whatever the circumstances. However, we have to consider how the events of the night affected Ricky Hatton and ultimately the pattern of the fight.

    Would he have been such an easy target had he not gone for broke due to the cut, point deduction and Cortez's lopsided handling of the fight.

    Would an already emotionaly fatigued Hatton have tired so rapidly if Mayweather had'nt been allowed to dip throughout the fight, an action which causes a fighter to miss and burn up energy.

    Would he have faired better inside if the referee had stopped Mayweathers illegal use of the elbow.

    I don't know!

    I know Floyd is a future all time great but even Sugar Ray Robinson had his La Motta, Louis had his Schmelling, Ali had his Frazier it seems every great fighter has an opponent whos style causes them difficulty.

    I guess the ultimate question is, could Hatton be better than he was in the first fight? Without a shadow of doubt the answer has to be yes, a lot lot better.

    The same question of Floyd? most people who have watched Floyds career have said his performance against Hatton was his best ever. Maybe theres more to come but a closer second fight would seem to be the conclusion of all the debate.

    Given an even break maybe Hatton could win.
     
  12. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Maybe your a ****** in denial about his hero being crushed:yep
     
  13. heidegger

    heidegger Guest

    You could come up with all sorts of 'what ifs' to argue that Hatton could win, but the fact is that Hatton is a good but LIMITED fighter,. Floyd had an answer to ever trick in Hattons book. He is just a better fighter. Too fast, too flexible, and most of all, too smart.
     
  14. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm astounded at the weight of logic and factual reasoning in your argument!

    No really!
     
  15. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    Good post by The Clan.

    RealIzm:

    I'm pretty sure they'll buy it. I don't live in the UK, but from following their online media I can tell you that there probably hasn't been this much noise over a boxing match for a long time, maybe never before.

    2 of the top 3 sports personalities of the year in the UK were boxers (1st place to Joe Calzaghe, second place to Formula One driver Lewis Hamilton, third place to Ricky Hatton).

    Note that I'm not saying that this fight will happen, I'm just pointing out that it would be easy to sell IF it happened. Especially if it was in England.

    The people at Sky obviously try to sell as many Pay-per-Views as they can, and this means lots of hype and media coverage, just like it was this time (the price was 15 pounds in the UK as opposed to 55 dollars in the US. Now 15 pounds isn't cheap for the average Brit, but 5 average Brits wouldn't think twice about putting in 3 pounds each and watching it together. And these aren't even the hardcore boxing fans we're talking about).

    No, I'm not from the UK if that's what you're suggesting. I never even talked about boosting the sport. Sky Sports aren't as interested in the sport as they are in making money from it. Any English football (soccer) fan from 5 years ago or so will confirm this for you.

    You have to understand British sports and the media. It's not like the US where you've got an uncountable number of sports stars. Of course the UK has got a lot of sportsmen, but you can still count them on your fingers. The media gives a lot of coverage to sporting events involving British sportsmen, and the people take a lot of interest even if they don't know the sport too well.

    You would only have to check the viewing statistics for the last Formula 1 race of the year, in Brazil, where Lewis Hamilton was racing to become the champion.