"Toledo" Dempsey vs 1994 Foreman

I see Dempsey tearing this version of Foreman apart and very early maybe inside of 5 rounds. I see Jack all over George from the opening bell and George having no real answer for Dempseys speed and tenacity. I see George getting busted up bleeding bad and taking a fearful beating which will lead to a stoppage somewhere between 5-7 rounds would be my guess. I do see George landing a few bombs here and there that will get Dempseys attention but no major problems with Jack handling THIS VERSION of Foreman.

 

Even this Old Foreman is better than anyone Dempsey beat and a league above Willard. Dempseys speed could win him a UD here but hes not hurting George who's chin/defense was better than oafs like Willard/Firpo. For 1 he isn't landing the 200punches he needs to knock his man out, for 2 his 1 shot power is vastly overrated. If he leaves himself too open Foreman is knocking him out

 

That is a prety bad post even by your standard.

There is a reason why the comeback George Foreman was handeled prety easily by virtualy every world class oponent he faced.

He was great only in terms of what he did relative to his age. Outside of that he was just plain mediocre.

I guarantee you that he is not beating Dempsey or Frazier or Tyson or Marciano. He is not knockoing any of them out in a month of Sundays, and I verry much doubt that he would finish the fight against any of them whether their power is over rated or not.

What Foreman did against Moorer is incredible but it is time to bring this second title reign back to reality.

 

Sorry did I talk ill of your hero? Dempsey didn't beat anyone as good as Old Foreman, not because Old Foreman was great, but because Dempsey's competition is 1 of the weakest in history.

Foreman's second reign is overrated and he was slow as mollases, Dempsey should be able to outbox/outspeed him as I mentioned BUT lets not forget Dempsey was ko'd by a club fighter and nearly ko'd by another club fighter neither of which were as good as Old George

 

I agree that he does get hurt and outclassed. The weight diffrence makes it hard for me to comprehend a TKO6. Whos time are they fighting at in your mind because the ref makes a big diffrence in this fight. I know he KO1ed Drake at 197 whilst Drake was at 257 but this was Drakes only ever pro fight. Willard was at 245 when he fought Dempsey and Dempsey at 187 and that was a TKO3. Meehan on the other hand Beat dempsey once lost once and drew twice. He was famous for his flabby body i feel Old Forman v Dempsey is more like this match up and can depend on who is having the better day. You see how he hold up to Fields i think he can use his weight and streng to over power Dempsey and grind him down in the clinches.

 

Willie Meehan and George Foreman are nothing alike to say the least. Jack Dempsey was at his best against big men. Carl Morris, Firpo, Willard, Fulton all taken out brutally. Dempsey broke the massive George Godfrey's ribs with sparring gloves.

 

I did not compare them style wise just you made a big deal about the flabby body. I likend the outcomes as i think that should Dempsey Foreman meet 3-4 times in a few years i think it is unlikley one of them would win each fight. I also agreed he was good against big men and even gave examples. I just find it imposible to write some one off who has an iron chin, reach, size and weight advantage as well as great physical strength.

 

any version of george would beat dempsey.
one of the hardest hitting heavies of all time against a crude, over rated colour bar drawing never was.
its a mis-match, george by ko in 2
sonny liston may have KO'd dempsey even quicker

 

Dempsey by decision. He was no fool: he knows he can't try to outmuscle Foreman, so he'd use his mobility (which was still good at Toledo) and his superior speed to dart in-and-out, scoring punches and getting away. If Tommy Morrison can pull-off such a strategy, the Toledo Dempsey could.

 

Is this even true though?

Lets say that you had a 25 year old fighter with the resume of the comeback Foreman and anything before the comeback didn't happen.

He would be a fighter who feasted on weak opposition and lost most of his top fights when he stepped up. He would have won the lineal title on his third title attempt, but he would be regarded as one of the weakest of all the lineal champions.

In short he would probably be about on a par with Shannon Briggs.

 

wrong thread

 

Dempsey destroys a 45 year old Foreman.

Dempsey TKO 3 Foreman

 

Christ on a bicycle, guy, you need to let that **** go. It happened like eleventy-million years ago and it has little to do with the thread question. What's ridiculous is that we agree on the question at hand, and yet you still try to drag this argument up from the depths just because I made the valid point that Dempsey was at his best fighting small. Would you honestly disagree with this? I'm not going to argue about the quality of Dempsey's opposition, or about why he didn't fight Wills because, honestly, no subjects are discussed more on this board. I retired from that business long ago. What happened happened. Forget about it.

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