"Toledo" Dempsey vs 1994 Foreman

I think Jack had an unusual interest in a first round stoppage there. After a few cautious early moments, he didn't sense a big threat from Jess, and he went for it. I agree it was a pretty ballsy attack. By the way, I think Dempsey deserved a first round stoppage win in that fight.

 

Well, since Doc Kearns had 100 G's on the fight for Demps to win by KO in 1 round, you can bet the farm that Kearns felt raped after the ref and ringsiders failed to hear the bell to end the round.....:shock:

Willard would've accepted the KO loss at that juncture with no complaints...
:deal

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foreman by ****. seriously old or young foreman would nullify Dempsey's punches with very strong clinche that foreman had. Foreman could move swarmers like a bull fighter, much like Jack Johnson would have beaten Dempsey. I dont see an old style like dempsey with his hands down trying to avoid foremans uppercuts while trying not to get tied up from close range. 94 foreman weight more + standing at 6"4 and far more powerful puncher than his younger self.

 

I will BUY a whole LOTTA' that stuff right there.......:hey:bbb:deal

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I know Moorer had a chinny chin, but he took some wicked stuff from Foreman in round 10---while it lasted.....

I doubt the 192 pound Dempsey could hold-up against that very same Foreman attack / punches landed.....

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How else can you punch against a 6ft,6" giant ? you must punch up to hit your opponents chin...Mr Bill try hitting a man as large as Willard with straight punches in classical fashjon..You will end up IF they get through
hitting your large opponents CHEST..Dempsey threw caution to the winds
in 110 degree heat and punched at any angle he could land on Willard..
He got the JOB done on a man though not a great fighter was never DROPPED before...Joe Louis who I love,took six rounds to stop Carnera,
thirteen rounds to stop big Abe Simon and Mike Tyson went the distance with Bonecrusher Smith...What 180 pound Dempsey accomplished at Toledo against a granite jawed giant awed everyone that saw him that day...It was the greatest demonstration in history of raw power mixed with amazing speed for a heavyweight.
Remember, the film we see today of that fight was hand cranked,and
wasn't at actual fighting speed...Like watching a Charlie Chaplin film today...Dempsey and Chaplin, my dad and others walked like you or me,
I can assure you...Dempsey is known as the greatest and most explosive
infighter in heavyweight history...With Willard he did what he had to do against such a larger and 70 pound heavier fighter and that what counts
RESULTS !! Today he is unfairly treated like Benedict Arnold by some who somehow ninety years later know more than his peers who held Dempsey in awe including a mature Sam Langford...Doesn't make sense to revise boxing history, I say....

 

It really amazes me that people can find fault with Dempsey for completely wrecking the heavyweight champion of the world in one round. Can anyone think of someone else who would be picked apart for doing that? I think some are slightly over analyzing that round of heavyweight boxing history. :nut

 

1 round is true, but the fight lasted 3..........

Foreman and Tyson both won titles in round 2, and they were flawed....

Lewis wasted Ruddock in 1992 and was later given the title...... Lewis was flawed under trainer Jose Pepe Correa.... Lewis sharpened up with Manny Steward.....

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Dokes took the WBA title from Weaver in 63 seconds back 1982---with ref's Joey Curtis' aide.... But we all know that was bogus......

 

Michael Moorer and your boy Ken Norton had chinny chins....... Sorry to pop your bubble, but even Stevie Wonder and Jose Feliciano can see that, dude.....

You don't have to be hammered by a contender or champ to classify for a glass-jaw....... Even a bartender can generally throw a few bombs early on and sometimes hit paydirt.......

But yes, I do agree that Foreman ices Dempsey like a cube in a time machine.......

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Did anyone see what gooftrooper Alex Stewart did to George Foreman? Just imagine if that had been a prime Jack Dempsey in there. Dempsey would kill the overrated old man.

 

Tyson's chin was damn good, but not as solid as originally suggested prior to Douglas in Japan...... Tyson took a series of wicked shots from "Douglas, Holy and Lewis." No laughing matter there....... Tyson basically just layed-down for "Danny Williams and Kevin McBride.......

George Foreman was in horrid shape for Alex Stewart in 1992...... Foreman did his diet thing and came in at 259 pounds, but Foreman was soft and really wasn't too concerned with Alex Stewart...... That was not Foreman at his best 43 yrs..... Foreman came back in 1993 and looked a lot better when he KO'd Pierre Coetzer.......

MR.BILL

 

I have to be brutaly honest with you here, and tell you that virtualy all lineal champions would have beaten the 40 year old George Foreman.

Its not just that people like Jack Dempsey would have beaten him, people like Jimmy Braddock would have beaten him as well.

What he acomplished was incredible given his age, but relative to other lineal heavyweight champions he was one of the weakest ever.

 

Douglas in Tokyo was a "One Shot" deal in which he showed up being the best he could ever be at age 29 and 231 pounds......... B.D. did everything right on that night, but he almost blew-it when he was nailed by a Tyson uppercut in round 8....... Aside from that, Douglas boxed and fought like a master....... Again, one night only........

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Jimmy Braddock would have beaten Foreman. He would have outboxed him all night long, Jabbed his face off, and outworked him. Jimmy also had an iron chin. Fat Grandpa Foreman ain't crackin that.


Braddock is very underrated. He had some nice basic skills. Take a look at some of his early fights. Good Right Hand, Good Size, Good Jab, Good Fundamentals, Nice High Gaurd, ATG chin.

 

Dude,

That is way outta line....... Talking like that can get you committed to the Funny Farm for a long time......
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Braddock beat a clowning Baer who was more interested in being a celebrity in 1935 than a serious fighter........
:hey:think

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