Tommy Burns vs Marvis Frazier

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  1. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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  2. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Frazier by UD. 5 inches and 80 years is a lot to overcome. And Frazier gets a bit underrated. He didn't have much power or chin, but he had some decent wins against only two (albeit brutal) losses against the two best HW's of the 80's.

    Plus Burns's opposition was horrendous. It really bothers me that he is in the top 5 all time, technically, for consecutive title defenses. Imagine if Vitali or Wlad fought a guy every week outside of the top 100. It wouldn't be tolerated by fans, but they could have had about 100 successful defenses.
     
  3. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't find fault with any of that.if burns were fighting these days he could probably make middle.
    Frazier was no smokin' Joe and got wiped out by Tyson and Holmes but he'd have too much for Burns.
     
  4. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    I agree, Frazier does get a bit underrated.

    Tillis, Ribalta and Smith were all good wins. In the Smith fight he was also heavily knocked down and had his jaw broken but managed to survive and win a decision.

    Smith is a guy that many list as the hardest puncher they fought. Everett Martin said that he hit him the hardest, and Martin fought Bowe, Foreman and Wladimir Klitschko twice! Figure that.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marvis would be too big for Burns and better skills from a better era
     
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  6. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Burns might be small by the standards of today, but he was still more than good enough to beat Marvis Frazier.

    He had a track record of overcoming a size disparity at world level, and Marvis Frazier was not all that good.
     
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  7. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    People are picking Marvis Frazier over a lineal heavyweight champion, and you say that he is underrated?

    The mind boggles!
     
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  8. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Just saying, Marvis is no easy opponent.
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    How do you think Marvin Hart or O'BRIEN would do again Bonecrusher Smith or Ribalta?
     
  10. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    over 12 i'll go frazier
     
  11. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Co-signed. I see this as a pretty easy victory for Marvis. Burns has so many physical disadvantages to overcome, and it's not like he's an ATG himself.
     
  13. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    This is a Split decision fight for me. A draw.
     
  14. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Easy win for young Frazier.
     
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  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    No, no he wasn't.