Tommy Fury Vs Jake Paul - 18th December Official.

Anthony Taylor told me personally that he whoops Jake Paul in sparring.

 

Logan Paul said he knocked him out in sparring. I dunno about Jake Paul.

Taylor isn't exactly a good boxer is he? His balance is all over the place.

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Jake Paul says he's lying here. He says he has footage.

 

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There's Anthony Taylor on about sparring Jake to me.

 

Thank you for saying this, so I didn't have to!

Regardless of what people think of Tommy's record in comparison to other boxers, Tommy has at least fought boxers, & boxers who have put serious professional rounds in. I'd love to know the combined number of rounds of professional boxing that Tommy's opponents have had before fighting him in comparison to Paul. To reject this is to reject that there is any craft involved in boxing in my opinion

If anyone is picking Paul to win this fight you've got to have a horrendous misreading of their careers, and of what it means to be a professional fighter who actually gets paid for the craft

 

Both Paul and Fury are each others toughest competition either has faced to date. It's a 50/50 fight, I don't see any clear edge for Tommy. I would not be surprised if he won nor would I be surprised if he lost.

 

Jake “the Problem” Paul vs Tommy “Fumbles” Fury.

with Amanda Serrano vs Katie Taylor as the co-main event.

gotta give it to Paul if he gets that fight card made.

for sure he is smashing Serrano & her dikey sister … either that or he is a woman’s boxing super fanatico!

Good for Paul.

 

1) He does, but neither hit hard in comparison to actual boxers who have been hitting in boxing for many years. It's a specialised skill

2) It's not that much of an achievement, as Woodley hardly threw any punches. For it to be even close enough as a scoring match to comment on shows how poor Paul was in that fight. Tommy wins that fight by winning every round on points, and he also doesn't get rocked

3) Maybe, but if a light hitter hits you often enough it hurts. That's why smaller punchers like Fury knock out bigger punchers like Wilder. This dynamic has been seen a million times, and it's why Mayweather easily knocked out the "bigger puncher" McGregor, who had no power compared to an actual boxer

4) Irrelevant really. Power doesn't matter when it comes to boxing unless one guy has killer power, which neither do in this case. This bout will be decided on skill and who lands more

5) Who has Paul knocked out in comparison? Guys who have had gloves on their hands once in their life time? It doesn't matter if someone is 0-29 when comparing to that, at least they know their way around a ring. Paul has faced people who can barely stand in the correct stance for more than 20 seconds. So to criticise Fury in this instance is to criticise Paul

6) Yes in comparison to Paul he does have skill, because Paul has shown he;s unable tod o even that against a series of people who have ZERO boxing basics. None of the fundamentals in any of Paul's opponents, so again, whatever you criticise Fury's opponents of are even more true of Paul's opponents

7) Perhaps, but it does show he's easy to hit if someone like Woodley can hurt him

8) Probably not that good in comparison to other boxers, but in comparison to someone who is clearly a novice like Paul then it's probably decent. I mean at least Fury has been hit by people who have boxed. Paul has never been touched by someone who has boxed. Only by a 40 year old MMA fighter

9) How do you genuinely type these two sentences in the same message and not see your own biases. In one instance you'll happily take one person's word that someone supposedly got knocked out in sparring, then in the same breath you go on to say 'supposedly knocked out in sparring' about Fury, casting doubt on it to make a point. You are simply choosing to believe Paul's stories, and refusing to believe Fury's. Why not just be objective?

10) Has Paul knocked out any part timers like this? No he hasn't. So any criticism you level at Fury, once again applies as doubly true against Paul. Therefore making the argument that Paul has a chance even weaker

11) Hahahahahaha. Woodley would not win on points against any of Fury's opponents. He might have a punchers chance of stopping them, but even then we've seen how poorly MMA fighter's punching power translates to boxing when we saw Mayweather effortlessly ride McGregors punches. It's not the same thing. Woodley gets slapped up by nearly every journeyman because he does not throw enough

12) Do you know what...it will be funny if he loses and the boxing snobs would/should be up in arms because it is an actual boxer. You know what though....it won't happen! I'd be willing to bet you £50 right now that Tommy Fury wins - want to take that bet with me???

13) Nope, Paul hasn't fought a single second in the ring with an actual boxer who has trained to be a boxer

14) Again, how hard you punch doesn't really matter in boxing. It's how often you land. Only casuals focus purely on power, hence why tons of casuals kept picking Wilder to beat Fury, and hence why they kept being wrong. Fury landed more often so was of course going to beat Wilder. Similar dynamic in Fury vs Paul

15) What do we know about Paul other than he can beat 40 year old MMA fighters with consecutive losing records in boxing matches outside their specialty with narrow decision victories, despite being rocked?

16) For the first few rounds, thenPaul will be throwing jello shots like he was in the last 4 rounds of the Woodley fight

17) I think Fury is what he is. And that's good enough to comfortably beat Paul because he's a specialist. To pick Paul is to ignore all the evidence - not how I roll buddy, but each to their own

18) Is that what you actually think will happen, because I'm ready to bet that £50

 

I boxed for years in the youth amateur system (welsh and british boxing). You greatly overrate journeymen and underrate mma guys who are tough and have boxed lots of rounds in boxing gyms. You can get guys off the street who've had kickboxing experience who are teak tough and they would give Tommy Fury problems in comparison to the level of boxers he's faced in the pros.

Tyson Fury has timing to go with power and good boxing ability. That's why he can knock out Wilder.

The Jake Paul fight wasn't actually close if you look at the punch statistics. Woodley had one successful round and it wasn't a four round contest.

You mention Tommy Fury has skill? What skill. He can't throw a straight jab, he has a habit of keeping his hands low (well known early starting amateur mistake ask any boxing trainer), he bounces with his feet when he punches (instead of sitting down with his legs to punch) . He knows how to throw feints and some hooks. That's not special. You overrate him because he has Fury in his name.

You overrate ''actual'' boxers who are journeymen especially who often are fighting part time and don't train enough to hone their craft. Here's Anderson Silva beating an ex world champ who knocked out Andy Lee. Yes, Chavez Jr wasn't the best and is lazy... but he was an ex world champ

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Power still matters in boxing otherwise Wilder wouldn't get as far as he did even if he was knocking out perhaps not the best journeymen. Power still will always be a factor along with boxing ability. You can't just flagrantly dismiss that fact.


I've sparred with lightweights and they don't really hurt me because my natural weight is 225lbs 16 stone. Taylor was a lightweight albeit a wrestler so he's durable. I doubt he hits that hard, though.

Boxing gets a bad reputation because of lot of these guys coming through are hype and they gain that hype by beating opponents who are ill prepared to fight them (taking fights on short notice, not recovered from previous fights). They're picked for the prospect to look good against.

Taylor was picked for Tommy Fury to knock out and he couldn't do it. It's because he simply doesn't punch as hard as he thinks he does and he hasn't developed proper defense because he doesn't have to against the opponents he's been facing.

I don't think Paul is particularly that good but neither is Tommy Fury. That's what i'm getting at. I think there's this illusion that a person can't train and learn how to box if he's a youtuber or your average joe which isn't true. It's not really rocket science.

If you have over a 100 fights and only won 10 of them perhaps it's best to find a new career and learn a new skill. That's what a lot of journeymen should do instead of being used by the corrupt boxing business.

That's the type of guys Tommy Fury fights. You could say they're ''real'' boxers that's true but the majority of them shouldn't be allowed to box as much as they do if they aren't winning or showing any real sign of improvement. Why take so much punishment for little money? When you could earn more being a building contractor or plumber. It's a mugs game.

You can be a ''pro'' boxer and be a terrible boxer. Does that mean they're legit? simply because they're allowed a boxing license. You can nitpick how the fight went and who got knocked out in what round,....etc... but those details aren't super important.

Wilder might knock out the same guys Tyson Fury faced faster than him... It doesn't really mean a great deal.

I mean you can train boxing for years and never become good at it and have multiple fights. An old intelligent fighter like Anderson Silva could train 4 months and perform better than the journeyman with the boxing license who's trained for years. It entirely depends on the individual.

I have never once mentioned i think Jake Paul is this great boxer but i think you are simply overrating Tommy Fury's ability.

I think Tyson Fury is an underrated puncher. His dad wasn't a big puncher and i don't think Tommy is but his power could be improved as he gets older with better technique.

I just think if Tommy can't hurt Jake Paul after landing a barrage of shots early on and Jake Paul fights back then it could be interesting because there's question marks still surrounding Tommy in terms of his chin, his stamina and durability. Some people have drawn the conclusion Jake Paul was completely gassed around the 4th round and is written off because he's deemed to have bad stamina. Tommy Fury has only fought 4 round fights and we don't really know how he will be in the 6th or 8th round.

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You can't really guage much by this but Jake Paul looks like he loads up on his shots more. Which isn't neccessarily a good thing because it might make him tire in the fight.

Tommy Fury looks like a lighter puncher even on the heavy bag. His training might be him sacrificing a bit of power for speed, though. I think that's he's going to try to beat Jake with movement and just fast hooks but he might get timed in the process.

 

The circus is back in town

 

Silva is the best ever in mma arguably and competed at 185lbs he'sbeen shot in mma since his leg injurythough. Chavez Jr was a paper champion at 160lbs, good in his prime yes but he's had little to no success above 160lbs or since that time.

Look at Woodley vs. Jake Paul. Woodley is a former mma world champion. He clearly had more experience over that time frame and his harder but he didn't know how to set things up and kept having his rhythm disrupted with a jab.

There's a lot more to boxing than just power and size or speed but yes they are all factors. As for journeymen we all know they have a level but also remember they don't always fight to win and they do get robbed of decisions on many occasions.

 

He could spar his big bro Tyson to get ready for this fight. How do you not beat Paul with all that then. Also, Tommy's right hand might be worse than Jake's. I don't know who's going to win this one, but at least Jake is fighting a real pro fighter next.

 

How’s he any more of a pro than Jake? No amateur career, all of his competition has been awful.