Tommy Hearns vs Felix Trinidad @ 147, 154, and 160.

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hearns may be the best pure boxer of the modern era. What have you been watching? Seriously, no disrespect, but even Leonard couldn't outbox him. He had to finally catch him and drop him.

    At 160, Hearns wasn't as good. But boxing Hearns is SUICIDE at 147 or 154.
     
  2. DrunkenShad

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    Damn straight, Hearns was never outboxed at 147 or 154, and anyone who tried was generaly on the receiving end of a beating.
     
  3. Toopretty

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    :good:good:good the man outboxed sugar Ray..Trinidad would damn near be defensless in this fight..b/c he would have to get in to land his barrage of power hooks and hearns would jab his ass do what move....then...drop the right hand at some point then Trinidad would come to grips with himself....It would be similiar to the duran fight if anything..and duran had better defense then Tito by a mile and then another one.
     
  4. Toopretty

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    NOBODY AT 147 OVER HEARNS PAST OR PRESENT..he had the power to KO good chin guys and he would outbox sluggers and knock them out and outbox boxers and probably knock them out...Ray had to go for broke in a 15 round fight to win...that is why Ray is great...in a 12 round fight..HEARNS...Hagler smoked Hearns b/c Hearns tried to go to war with a warrior...that was crazy...
     
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  6. Jack

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    147lbs: Hearns KO 2.
    154lbs: Hearns KO 1.
    160lbs: Hearns KO 4.

    Hearns was simply the better fighter. The only thing Tito has on him is his chin, and that gap is hardly huge. Hearns is a far superior boxer who hits a lot harder.

    All three of these fights would be like Hearns/Duran or Hearns/Cuevas. Too strong, too fast, too powerful - Too good.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are those who think that Hearns may very well have been the best of the Fab 4 of the 80's. I don't know if that's true, but I will say this.

    He destroyed Duran. He was beating Leonard the first time before getting caught and very few believe the 2nd fight was a draw (Most see it as a clear win for Hearns) and Hagler beat him clearly in a great fight, but was also a naturally larger man. No excuses, but those are the perceptions of many.

    I can't see Trinidad beating him, and in a series of fights between ATG, there are very few I would take over Hearns at 147 or 154.
     
  8. Toopretty

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    Not that early..but :good Hearns destroys any boxer-puncher like tito or a cotto...
     
  9. Toopretty

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    Hearns would butcher ODH....so would a prime Forrest..andybody with a better jab and faster hands and REACH advantage over ODH has his # easy.
     
  10. Robbi

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    The reason I pick Hearns?. Because when I balance everything out looking at both fighters strengths and weaknesses and how the fought, everything points towards a Hearns win.

    Trinidad was a very slow starter, and was knocked down during the early rounds in many fights. Hearns on the otherhand was very quick out of the blocks, and liked to test his opponents chin sharply. Trinidad's ability to defend an opponents jab was not very good, and Hearns' jab was better than Hopkins and Wright's. Hearns got off with his punches with more freely than Trinidad, he simply let his punches flow. Trinidad's a much more patient measured fighter.
     
  11. GARCIA

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    Tommy wins by 1st round ****........in every division. :deal
     
  12. Rock0052

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    I'd make Hearns the favorite, but Trinidad's getting seriously underrated here considering Hearns showed that he himself was susceptible to getting KO'd....particularly when he was in control of a fight. You can't just write off the chin differential as no big deal for Hearns considering he's facing one of the hardest hitting Welterweights in history. That's a big deal in this matchup.

    Felix has a solid chance at 147. He had no chance at 160 and I gotta pick Hearns clearly at 154 though Trinidad would have an OK chance.
     
  13. Robbi

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    Hearns gets to Trinidad before vice versa. Hearns liked to get into a fight very early with authority. Trinidad needed time to start capatlizing on opponents mistakes, and he was very vulnerable to being knocked down during the first 4 rounds. Hearns' jab would be the main weapon. Trinidad doesn't have adjustable upperbody movement to slip the jab.

    Two powerful punchers with weak chins. But when you look at each fighters styles and how they fought, Hearns easily.
     
  14. Rock0052

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    Hearns isn't going to KO Trinidad in the 1st or 2nd rounds with the jab, but yet that seems to be the consensus opinion of how people think this fight would go. He'd have to go all out to get rid of him that early, and when Hearns got into wars, he put his chin out there and got sloppy with his defense. Hearns is the one that was knocked out twice in the 3rd round...not Trinidad. While Felix isn't on Hagler's level, it's naive to think he wouldn't have a solid chance to do it (at 147) considering Iran Barkley starched Tommy even though he was getting dominated.

    No, the best pick here is Hearns by very late KO after Tito's been worn down or a Hearns wide UD. Him going balls to the wall for an early KO puts him right in the worst possible situation for this fight- going toe to toe with someone who can KO him just as quickly as he could KO Trinidad.
     
  15. Robbi

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    Who said Hearns would KO Trinidad inside 1 or 2 rounds with the jab?. Just saying that would be the key weapon for Hearns scoring and hitting Trinidad often.