Tommy Hearns vs Felix Trinidad @ 147, 154, and 160.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RAMPAGE0017, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    15,221
    Likes Received:
    173
    The defintition of one fighter "backing up" another is not just mines. It's the definition full stop.

    One man being the aggressor against the other. Thats "Trinidad being the aggressor against Hopkins". So I'll define what Trinidad done against Hopkins for you.

    Trinidad never backed Hopkins up, as Hopkins clearly backed himself up as part of his strategy. As I stated, backing someone up is about landing punches to put them into a defensive shell.

    I disagree with your pick. Hearns would be aggressive against Trinidad, especially during the early rounds. Because history tells us Hearns fought in this manner most of the time. If you want to see more in-depth reasons why I pick Hearns, feel free to look at my previous posts.
     
  2. Lupe

    Lupe Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2006
    Messages:
    350
    Likes Received:
    0
    Definitions can be sidetracking. How I define "backing up", as I said, does not matter as long as you understand that one fighter is the aggressor. Details as to why, or how are fit for another thread. My point is that there's no way Hearns becomes the aggressor against a fighter of the power of Trinidad and survives 9 rounds. It ends early..and with Hearns on his back. Mark my words. Trinidad can punch, especially is you come straight at him.

    Now if you say Hearns will become the aggressor, then I'm changing my pick. It's an early night - the Hitman getting caught on the ropes.
     
  3. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2004
    Messages:
    8,929
    Likes Received:
    39
    Well, I won't exactly say it's an easy win for Tommy, as Tito has shown, he can be knocked down but he will always get up. Unless he's broken down like what Hopkins did. And he can punch too.

    at 147:

    Tommy would control the distance with jabs the way he did Pipino Cuevas, but the difference will be he would be patient. Even after dropping Tito, Tommy would keep his distance and soften Tito up bit-by-bit and end the fight probably around the 8th.


    At 154 and at 160:

    same scenario, but i think at 160 he may have a few uncomfortable moments at he is a bit slower and much more vulnerable to Tito's power punching. But still, Hearns will be too much.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    Messages:
    123,071
    Likes Received:
    35,193
    Hearns at 147 was one of the best boxers in history only a fool or a nuthugger thinks he beats The Hitman there. He would have given Tito a boxing lesson before knocking him out.:deal
     
  5. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    15,221
    Likes Received:
    173
    If Hearns and Trinidad were both aggressive, which I'm sure they both would be, then only one winner. But as I said earlier, Hearns started faster than Trinidad, and had the perfect style to get to Trinidad, before Trinidad got to him.

    Would you concede that Hearns got off with his punches better, made them flow with more ease, and that he was much busier behind the jab?. Awnser that question specifically.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    15,221
    Likes Received:
    173
    Trinidad would get KO'd. Hagler had the chin to run through Hearns' right hand, Trinidad never.

    Hearns KO all night long. :good
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    Messages:
    123,071
    Likes Received:
    35,193
    Classic Jack:lol:
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2005
    Messages:
    16,031
    Likes Received:
    6
    No, they don't have equal power. Tito's power was great, but not on Hearns level. The reason Hearns didn't ruin you with his power is because he didn't throw heavy shots continuously as he could simply box and counter. Tito was not a great boxer, he threw, like Cotto, heavy shots nearly every punch. It just wore people down.

    Reach advantage means alot when Hearns could simply keep him on the end of his jab. Tito was accurate against average defensive fighters. You overrate his accuracy.

    Hearns would KO Trinidad and probably in the early to mid rounds. You are overrating Tito's abilities quite a bit and not even taking Hearns style and ability into account.
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2005
    Messages:
    16,031
    Likes Received:
    6
    If Hearns is the aggressor, then he stops Tito quickly.
     
  10. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2006
    Messages:
    9,440
    Likes Received:
    5
    :good
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    15,221
    Likes Received:
    173
    :good
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2004
    Messages:
    15,221
    Likes Received:
    173
    Guess what Jack. Thats the first ever Jones avatar I have had on here, and he wouldn't make my top 10 favourite boxers. You need to polish up on your English grammar as well.

    "Tito would have kayoed Hearns, is going to to KAYO your old heroes ass RJJ" lolol.

    Take care, and keep in touch with yourself :rofl
     
  13. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    24,017
    Likes Received:
    47
    :patsch Tito doesn't have the footwork to get inside on Tommy Hearns, let alone the chin. He goes toe to toe the way Hagler did and he gets knocked out quick. Bottom line.
     
  14. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2006
    Messages:
    24,017
    Likes Received:
    47
    I'm sorry to break it to you Dan, but...

    Roy Jones Jr will beat Felix Trinidad
     
  15. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2004
    Messages:
    71,071
    Likes Received:
    27,767
    I say hearns because of his speed, jab, reach, footwork.... against a foot setter like tito, i think he controls the fight with these.