Tommy Hearns vs Felix Trinidad @ 147, 154, and 160.

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I'll second that. Jones will knockout out the one dimensional robot inside 6 rounds.

    I'd like to have seen Jones v Trinidad when it was first talked about happening, back in 2000-2001 at light-heavyweight. Possibly a catch-weight, just under 168lbs. Same again back then as now, Jones KO.
     
  2. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns wins in all 3 ..Tito to me is way overrated
     
  3. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm taking nothing away from Trinidad, who is a great boxer. IMO Tommy Hearns was just on a different level and he takes trinidad at all three weights. Hearns would be able to control the early rounds with his jab, and takes Trinidad out in the later rounds.
     
  4. halfamazin1

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    Everyone always seems to talk mad **** about boxers when they are long and gone, no on was saying **** when Tito was blasting Reid and Joppy and was like38-0 with like 33KOs...people always talk **** when they've been beat...He would have a great chance I think...I'm not saying he's better than hearns but damn...he never lost a welterweight or jr middleweight fight...ever, he was a beast at 147 holding the longest title reign record but at 154 he hit like a mule kick...give the man his props.
     
  5. tays001

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    Hearns Ko's Tito At Every Weight
     
  6. Lupe

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    What an insight! You such an expert you should not wasting your time with fools and nuthuggers.
     
  7. Lupe

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    The folly in that argument is that you believe it's only Hearns who will get to Trinidad first. Let's say he does, and Tito goes down....if he gets up, then it's over for Hearns.
    However, if Trinidad gets to Tommy first - with that chin - it's LIGHTS OUT!

    Not really. Hearns had better footwork and Tito's achille's heel (late in his career) has been that he had to get set in order to punch. At 147, however, that was not a problem.

    Actually it's Tito's punches that always flowed with more ease. Tito, at some time, was reknowned as the best combination puncher (I remember an analysis done by KO magazine). Had power in both hands and was found to have the best stamina - Hopkins included.

    We know how Tommy was susceptible to fading in his fights - especially if the pace was high.

    So according to your theory, if they both start fast and Hearns does not get an early KO, then BET YOUR HOUSE ON IT, he won't last 4 rounds.
     
  8. Lupe

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    And you base that on.......?

    Crap.

    Crap.

    Answer this:
    If it's that simple, why was he not able to do that to Hagler?
    Is Whittaker an average fighter? Nobody had been able to land 54% of their powershot against Sweet Pea.

    It can't happen in the middle rounds because Hearns would never get there. Hearns' shot is to land in the 1st 2 rounds and hope Tito stays down.

    At least I'm trying to bring 2 sides of the argument thann just saying Hearns will KO Trinidad without basis - as most here have been saying.

    I'll say it again, Tito Trinidad is way underrated here. Especially by those who hold Hopkins in such high regard.
     
  9. Lupe

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    Stop being subjective in match-ups of this nature. You have to look into both fighters strenghts and weaknesses - not just the fighter you like. I know many hate Trinidad here because he beat a lot of americans - until he ran into Hopkins. Then suddendly he's not a great this and that.

    An analysis on key elements to victory:

    1. Power: Tie
    2. Stamina: Tito
    3. Jab: Hearns
    4. Speed: Hearns
    5. Chin: Tito

    These are key things that will win the fight for each and it seems even. But - CHIN is the "foundation" on which a fight is won/lost. Given two guys with equal power, the determining element of who would win is chin factor.

    This is why, to me, this fight cannot go the full 12 rounds. And Tito could most likely taste the canvas, but which WW has been able to put him down for good?

    An aggressive, fast starting Hearns lasts 4 rounds..or else he's KOed clean in the 9th.
     
  10. Robbi

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    With an outrageous opinion like that one, it shows your biased beyond belief.
     
  11. Lupe

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    Actually Tommy is one of my favourite fighters behind Leonard. And it's not just my opinion about Trinidad's punches, the KO magazine did an analysis among current fighters at the time (2000) and Tito rate 1st in: Stamina, Power and combination punching.