Tommy Hearns Vs Kid Gavilan

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  1. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well I'm probably not the best to tell you but he was a real aggressive fighter, with A+ stamina, quick hands and feet. His chin was about as good as they get. I wouldn't say he was a big puncher, but he was more of a stinging puncher, never quite big enough to knock out the elite, but certainly had respectable power. He has a lot of quality wins over the likes of Ike x2 and Graham x2 after he dropped decisions before the rematches, aswell as wins over Turner, Basillio and Chuck Davey, with a lot of solid wins against top contenders, which show real depth in his career. Probably best remembered fights with Sugar Ray are what most remember him for giving the greatest of all time a real run for his money, but inevitably coming up short. I'm pretty sure he was just 18 when he first debuted as well.
     
  2. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    Thanks for all of that Webbiano, I enjoyed reading it. Which recent fighter could you liken him to?
     
  3. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Hearns fairly comfortable. No stoppage this time against the granite Gavilan :hat
     
  4. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No welter in history could outbox Hearns(not too sure many MWs could either). His physical advantages are just too overwhelming. You have to slug with him; a dangerous proposition all around.

    Gavilan has the chin to survive, but not the power to exploit Tommy's shakey chin. Hearns can keep KG on the outside with that ramrod jab and his devastating right is powerful enough to keep KG from rushing in too often, looking for that elusive KO.

    If Gavilan had more power he could pull it off. He doesn't, so I don't see how he wins this fight. Again, NOBODY outboxes Thomas Hearns.
     
  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    I feel Burley and Hopkins could have gotten it done by boxing. Maybe Monzon as well.
     
  6. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Controversial statement time. I think the welterweight Hearns is slightly overrated head to head. Those 7 pounds from welter to light middle gave him much needed stamina; the Welter Hitman had a tendency to gas. It happened against Leonard, and you can see it against Randy Shields. Gavilan egress him by dominating the championship rounds. At 154, this goes the other way.
     
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  7. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's actually an excellent point. I'll still take Hearns either way, but you've brought up something to be considered. Kudos:smoke
     
  8. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hearns wins by decision. But if he slugs with the Kid late, he may get knocked out!
     
  9. Manassa

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    Gavilan at his best beats all but maybe three welterweights in history. He had a quite immense physical package, including stamina and durability of the highest grade with speed to back it up. I would describe Gavilan as 'only' adequately strong and a poor puncher in knockout terms, but these mild shortcomings almost lent themselves favourably to a style that involved movement and quick volleys of punches.

    I've never thought Gavilan belonged in the top echelon for boxing brains like Jose Napoles, but the menace of his physical make-up combined with still-definitely-worthy skills threatens many great welterweights, including Thomas Hearns, who I thought was quick, powerful and fundamentally safe, yet unjustly overzealous at times considering his fragility and lack of world class stamina. A fighter like this, Gavilan could exploit, not through trickery but brutality in exchanges, taking his chances and coming off better.
     
  10. PaulieJ'z

    PaulieJ'z Member Full Member

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    Excellent points and they express my opinion why Gavilan outlasts Hearns.

    Pushed to an early, frantic pace he doesn't expect, Hearns does extremely well early and mid way through, dropping and severly hurting Gavilan.

    But, with a granite chin that can take even the power Tommy brings, Gavilan rallies. Despite lacking true power at 147, like SRR and SRL, "The Kid" stuns and rattles a tiring Hearns and continues to do so late, with his workrate and stamina being the deciding factor. This earns Gavilan a disputed decision, but one he earns.
     
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  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Correct on all accounts Xcept maybe d predictions part on which i don't have much of n (established) opinion .
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hearns can beat boxers with better skills than his. Which are also very good. He was beating Leonard and beat Bentiez. I think he beats Gavilan as well.
     
  13. ThinBlack

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    Tommy would win by decision.His boxing ability would almost be matched by GAvilan's experience, and guile, and he would barely hold off Kid for a close unanimous verdict.
     
  14. McGrain

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    Agree. Been saying this for years. Kept getting a row form the same three guys, i wonder if they're about?
     
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  15. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. Hearns was better at 154.