Tommy Hearns Vs Saul Alvarez - Middleweight War?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, May 11, 2021.


Who wins?

Poll closed Jun 29, 2021.
  1. Hearns?

    60.9%
  2. Alvarez?

    39.1%
  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    D-Chenko turned pro late because he was a distinguished am, and fought semi-pro fights just like Lomachenko that aren't listed on most versions of his pro record.

    His two best wins, Culcay and Tureano, had similar career paths and were real guys whether they graced The Ring ratings or not on the month of their fights with him.

    And I would think outlanding and cutting up GGG would do something to show his level.

    He was top 5 at 160.

    I also said he was "arguably" Jacobs' best win, meaning it's either him or Quillen as far as official wins go.
     
  2. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Derevyanchenko is a tough guy, but the fact remains that he has achieved little as a pro. His record as an amateur is not relevant here.

    Charlo showed what a world rated fighter in his prime does to tough old warhorses like Derevyanchenko.

    I think Jacobs taking out an undefeated Quillin, inside a round, is an obviously better win. Jacobs being run close by a guy he would have hammered several years earlier doesn't come close.
     
  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    His am record is important whenever anyone points out his low number of pro fights, as if he didn't know what he was doing in the ring.

    And of course, Jacobs fought him before GGG and Charlo. D-Chenko is not a young fighter. Bypassing the GGG fight to look at what Jermall did is agenda driven.
     
  4. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a big difference between Am and Pro. You know this, but want to keep pushing your own agenda.


    You are pathetic.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You're absolutely right if we're talking about how WSB is far better prep for world level pro boxing than the 15 or 20 meaningless fights that a lot of prospects go through.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hearns never looked good in any of his fights at 168.
     
  7. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This pretty much sums up my thoughts on how the fight could go.

    I agree that the Hearns chin gets too much attention. Losses to Ray Leonard and Hagler are no shame at all. The reckless version of Hearns ('87/'88) sailed close to the wind and his carelessness, against Barkley, cost him.

    In the latter stages of his career, he took digs from fairly solid-hitting Light Heavyweights and did ok. That said, a scrappy physical affair likely favors Canelo.

    On the other hand, speculation about Hearns' chin becomes academic, if Hearns is in 'composed boxing' mode. The Hearns, who boxed patiently behind the fast jab and picked his moments to unleash a vicious, whipping armory, was a formidable prospect for the very elite.

    This version of Hearns could reduce Canelo's odds of winning to little more than those of a puncher's chance.
     
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