Tommy Hearns Vs Sugar Ray Robinson @ 147

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  1. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This would be a great fight and I think Hearns could outbox Robinson a couple rounds. I also see Robinson knocking Hearns out with a left hook in the 10th round.
     
  2. Street Lethal

    Street Lethal Active Member Full Member

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    Concerning the comparison to Leonard, it depends on Hearns' conditioning. Both Hearns and Robinson were a lot better than Leonard, but, unlike Hearns, Robinson could always be counted on to go a hard fifteen rounds. Robinson was a much better offensive fighter and a bigger puncher (with either hand) than Leonard. He could reach Hearns earlier than Leonard if Hearns came into the fight in the condition he came in against Leonard. I still pick Robinson over Hearns in his best condition, but it would come later. Had Hearns been in better condition for Leonard, Leonard wouldn't have won that fight.

    Hearns had three problems: 1) he tended to tire late in fights, 2) while he didn't have a glass jaw, he could be hurt, and this is deadly against a puncher like Robinson, 3) when he was hurt he tended to leave his body and submit to the will of his opponent (much like a wounded animal). Number 3) seems harsh, but it was weird watching Hearns watch his own destruction sometimes.
     
  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Robinson after a rough start will get him.
     
  4. SgrRyLeonard

    SgrRyLeonard Active Member Full Member

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    Robinson by a late knockout in a thrilling fight.
     
  5. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll go against the grain here and pick Hearns by KO. Robinson would be the favorite...but had they fought multiple times, I don't think he would've had an unblemished record against the Hitman. Hearns has KO'd guys with great chins before, and I think Tommy could get to him with perhaps the greatest offensive arsenal in welterweight history. Reach, power, accuracy, speed...there wasn't anything Tommy didn't have there offensively, and that makes him a legit threat to KO anybody who's ever laced them up at that weight- Robinson included.

    Chalk me up for a Hearns KO6, even if Robinson wins the trilogy.
     
  6. ajohnfp

    ajohnfp Sooner Full Member

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    Hearns would win and shock all of you
     
  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    This would be a tough fight for Sugar Ray. He wouldn't be outboxing Tommy so he would really have to rough him up and hurt him. Over 15 rounds, I think he would. I wouldn't bet against a prime Robinson at 147, so I'll say Ray by late stoppage.
     
  8. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The key to this fight is robinsons willingness to mix it up. Ray would not outbox tommy and would have to trade with tommy to get to him the way leonard did. The thing is,leonard was patient enough to dance away from tommy for the first five or so rounds and give these rounds away to figure tommy out and to wait for him to tire somewhat,i just cant see robinson dancing away from tommy to avoid the early rounds power,robinson was maybe too much macho to do that...
    So the scenario is tommy hearns and robinson engaging in an early rounds shootout,and i just cant see any welter taking tommys offensive arsenal in a shootout,robinson is outreached,outjabbed and he has never meet anyone with the power or speed of tommy....Tommy met a similiar fighter in ray leonard....I take hearns to knock robinson out with picture perfect right hands within the first three or four rounds...Robinson is too offensively minded/macho to be patient with tommy...Over three fights hearns wins as he could always box to a decision...If Robinson got over the early blitz it would be an interesting fight,especially over 15....
    I think ray leonard was the better welter than robbie,ray has more atg quality opponents on his welter resume... Hearns is very underrrated by many at welter,his speed,size,style,jab and power make him one of the very very greatest head to heat at this weight...
     
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Hearn's could beat anyone at 147 and not shock me.
     
  10. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    SRR is undoubtedly the greater fighter P4P. Can Tommy beat SRR at 147? You betcha he can. If the fight is made over 12 rounds I fancy Tommy by UD, over 15 rounds the pendulum swings back to SRR. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Hearns can stop SRR either. If Tommy goes into offensive mode right from the start who knows. SRR has never met an offensive fighter quite like Hearns.

    I think this fight is a 'pick 'em' myself.
     
  11. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    IMO, SRR had the chin to come trough Hearns best shots, at 147 lbs. Tommy´s power was great, but also SRR´s chin. IMO Hearns would outpoint SRR the first 5 rounds (3-1-1) and than get KO´ed cold by a monster left hook...


    SRR KO 6 Hearns
     
  12. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robinson would coldcock Tommy after two or three Hearns rounds, somewhere around the sixth-seventh.
     
  13. George W Hedge

    George W Hedge Member Full Member

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    Give hearns a chin like chavez or hagler & we might very well have found a welter who could beat srr... on pts.

    Thats maybe but as it is robinson hits too hard at 147 & if tommy got tko`d by leonard, then he gets ko`d by srr I believe.

    :good
     
  14. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearns only needed a chin like leonard and some more survival skills in his youth and he would have been the no1 p4p of all time...As it is he is one of the atgs p4p anyway and still has a great chance of beating robinson at welter...And remember,tommys chin was fine against hagler ,leonard and in his lt heavy world title bouts.....
     
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