Tommy Hearns vs. Winky Wright, at 154, both at their best, who wins?

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  1. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another great fight to watch. Winky was a beast at 154 bu7t tommy was hitting his hardest at 154. So lets say we take the Winky from the first Mosley fight against the Hearns who knocked out Duran. I think it's a toss up, I can't see anybody knocking out Winky, including Hearns because of Winky's durability and great defense. So who do you guys think wins this fight?
     
  2. WhataRock

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    Hearns by knockout.

    Winky does have a great chin and a pretty good defense. But his defense gets pretty overrated, I think the superior timing and speed of Tommy catches out Winky to often.

    Tommy had true one punch knockout power...Even Winky could fall from it if he was hit right.
     
  3. Canibus81

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    Tommy also doesn't do good with pressure fighters and Hagler showed that and so did leonard when he kept putting pressure on Tommy later on their fight. Winky also has one of the best jabs which people fail to acknowledge. I think this is a very good fight but I'd take Winky in this fight.
     
  4. WhataRock

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    I dont think comparing Winky to Leonard and Hagler is the best way to gauge the winner of this fight.
     
  5. Canibus81

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    I think you can. Winky is a great fighter. You guys make it seem like he's just an okay fighter. I think after his upcoming fight with paul williams maybe you guys will see my point and lets not forget he's not in his prime anymore either.
     
  6. WhataRock

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    Winky is a great fighter for this era..but in a historical sense is no more than an ok fighter.
    Especially when comparing him to the likes of Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler.

    For a start he isnt anywhere near the calibre of those fighters and is not comparable stylistically either.

    Williams isnt even an ok fighter for this era yet...I dont think a win over him proves anything really. I have long been sceptical of Williams and I to think Winky could beat him, Winky from the Mosley and Tito fights would damn near shut him out.
     
  7. Canibus81

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    Winky is comparable to Marvin Hagler in terms of style. And has a better defense. As far as what he's accomplished in historical context, he's accomplished a lot and pretty has beaten every fighter he's faced for the past 14 yrs. until he fought Hopkins. Taylor and Vargas didn't really beat him. So based on his level of comp and willingness to fight every and any fighter, I say he ranks high. And Tommy would not walk thru Winky, I don't care what any of you guys say.
     
  8. WhataRock

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    I dont recall anyone saying he would walk through him...That is far from how Hearns does things. Thats not to say he wouldnt outbox him or be able to eventually catch him with enough bombs to force a stoppage.

    If you think Winky's level of opposition warrants him being ranked "high" in a historical sense then I dont think this arguement is going to get anymore fruitful.

    Winky would get beaten by Hearns..Ill leave it at that.
     
  9. Sweet Pea

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    Hearns fails against pressure when it's backed by power and strength, something Wright doesn't offer a whole lot of. Winky is inferior in every category and far less versatile. Hearns wins 10/10.
     
  10. Canibus81

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    Winky may not have a lot of punching power but he hits a lot harder than people give him credit for, plus Hearns chin is a little suspect. And Winky has a lot of physical strength. Ray Leonard and Hagler were a lot more versatile than Hearns is.
     
  11. Dave's Top Ten

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    Hagler and Winky? They're both southpaw, that's pretty much about it as far as being comparable goes.
     
  12. Sweet Pea

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    They were also a lot better and more versatile than Winky Wright, who's one-dimensional and slow compared to far more skilled and dangerous Hearns. And no, Winky doesn't hit very hard at all, definitely not enough to discourage Hearns, which can't be said vice versa.
     
  13. Canibus81

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    I was talking in terms of their workrate, pressure, good jabs and southpaw stance.
     
  14. Canibus81

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    Winky also has a better defense than both of those guys, which makes a difference. Hearns wouldn't be landing a lot on him. And he's not that slow compared to hearns. Shane Mosley was faster than Winky and more versatile and we seen what happened in both fights. Trinidad was a big puncher and comparable to hearns in power and Winky held him to only 58 punches landed the whole fight. And as far as his power goes, Bernard Hopkins said Winky hits harder than Calzaghe so, I think it's fair to say hits hard enough, the more he keeps touching you.
     
  15. WhataRock

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    Winky still gets hit..he isnt quite the defensive master you are saying he is.

    Tommy is far more skilled and faster then Tito ever was...Shane Mosley is not the first person I think of when the word versatile is brought up, he was shown to be very lacking in this regard in both their fights.

    It really doesnt matter what Hopkins said..this fight is at 154 and Winky's KO percentage often against far from durable fighters was dismal at the weight.