Tommy Hearns was not dehydrated or weight drained vs SRL

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  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm surprised he actually didnt cave in earlier. He sure didn't resemble a hit man coming into the fight. I think Tommy had the same problem as Owens in the Pintor fight.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :lol: Jones is my 2nd favorite fighter of all time you clown.

    I am now almost convinced you're a troll. It's subtle things like that which I always pick up from you, makes me seriously question your motives.
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    How would two extra pounds of water weight hidnered him, Q?

    He just ****ing said he wasn't sweating during the fight.

    Awfully selective with what parts of Hearn's statement you want to remember.
     
  4. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    At 6'1 and a welterweight, he needs to have as much weight on as possible so he's definitely going to be a lot better on fight night if he weighed in at 147.

    I'm not saying it would've changed the outcome or anything, but he did look a little drained in that fight.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Btw, I don't know if your an athlete but as a 1 on 1 competitior, Not sweating doesnt mean ur dehydrated. Sometimes it just means your in incredible shape. When I am in peak shape, it takes a lot to make me sweat. I mean Alot.
     
  7. Russell

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    Ray Arcel, one of the most knowledable men in the history of the game, laid this out before the fight even started.

    You're obviously missing the point. He may not of been drained, food or water wise, but 2 pounds to a world class athlete is substantial.
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, I know Q. Your body becomes more efficent as it adapts to your routines.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Yes it is, but according to hearns.....the 2 extra pounds didnt matter to him because he naturally came in at 145 due to good training. I rate tommy hearns as my # 4welterweight of all time, so SRL's win over him means alot to me.
     
  10. Rebel-INS

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    Who else is in your top ten?
     
  11. elTerrible

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    The rumor that I heard was that he was overtrained and I think there was something about him even running 5 miles or whatever the night before the fight.

    I dont know if that is true or not but that is what I read before.
     
  12. SuzieQ49

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    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Sugar Ray Leonard
    3. Jose Napoles
    4. Tommy Hearns
    5. Emile Griffith
    6. Barbados Joe Walcott
    7. Kid Gavilan
    8. Henry Armstrong
    9. Luis Rodriguez
    10. Oscar De Le Hoya
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know full well that you can't dispute what I said about the Norris-Leonard matchup otherwise you would have already responded. You didn't make one remark about it. Instead you concentrate on some other topic so you can call me a troll and try to discredit me.

    YOU discredit ME?? Someone who wasn't even around in this particular era and forgot more about the sport that you will ever know?

    PROVE that I am a troll by asnwering the question: How would Ray get Terry to stay put and then drop his hands so he could unload on him? This is not some made to order stepping stone cakewalk we're talking about: Dave Green, Chiaverini, Randy Shields, Ayub Kalule, Don Lalonde, Kevin Howard.

    Those guys were brought in to lose and they knew it. Norris actually has athletic ability denied those frail, weak punching, slow polks not to mention the will to win. This can be noted from their bout in which Norris tested Ray early and sent him this message with a body shot that drove him into the ropes: You're not fighting an old man anymore. You're not fighting Lalonde, Dave Green, Marcos Geraldo. I'm going to hit you and I'm going to try to hurt you.

    Leonard found out early on he was going to have to pay the price to get in on Norris with his flesh.

    You see, none of those guys had the right stuff. Terry Norris, and Roy Jones-they got the right stuff. hagler had the right stuff for years and years but not at the end of his career.
     
  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    It's funny how his stamina went at exactly the moment that Leonard produced his late-rally.
     
  15. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    2 pounds? He weighed 146 for most of his welter title fights, so one pound would be correct. He also weighed 145 in a big fight prior to the leonard contest.