Tommy Hearns was not dehydrated or weight drained vs SRL

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    And hilarious how his stamina bled away as the fight goes on.

    Extra weight wouldn't of done anything but help.
     
  2. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I think the stoppage may have been due to him not answering a succession of blows dickhead.
     
  3. godking

    godking Active Member Full Member

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    But you know that someone will argue otherwise anyway ;)
     
  4. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Then again, Hagler's stoppage of Colbert was probably due to those extra pounds Mighty Mike lost in training. Marv didn't land a glove on 'slick' until his stamina went in the 12th and he could move no more. :good
     
  5. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Hearns is obviously lying, Russell knows best. He was there at ringside and Tommy's been paid off by Leonard's henchmen. That's not really Tommy speaking, when his mouth moves someone's dubbed over it. What he's really saying is that he lost those two pounds chasing after Leonard's brother Roger, who stole his pack of twinkies an hour before the weigh-in.
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    OMFG!!!!!!!!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: LOL
     
  7. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    Re-watch the fight, tommy may have been in trouble, but he was defending himself and was throwing back as the ref dived in. In my eyes it was slightly premature, but I don't think he would've made it to the bell.
     
  8. godking

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    :lol: :lol:
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    This is fair. But it wasn't a bad stoppage. I personally would have let it gone on a few more seconds but then again I think most 'controversial' stoppages were too early.
     
  10. McGrain

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    I don't think he was dehydrated but I think it's self evident that the training camp would have been geared more compeletely towards making the weight as opposed to preparing the fighter for the fight. They are not one and the same and it does represent a disadvantage.

    Of course there are also serious advantages to boiling down. Leonard beat a guy who's dimensions are more those of a MW, a big one. That should be taken into account too.

    Another good example is Hollyfield and his spell at 175. He could bully the guys he was in with but he couldn't train properly because he was so geared to weight making.
     
  11. My dinner with Conteh

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    Good, logical post. Randy Shields wrote a pre-fight article for KO about this fight, having taken on both (and given them trouble). He felt Tommy would outbox Ray, something most disagreed on before the fight, and that Leonard would produce a late rally to stop Hearns as his stamina was in question (it never would be his strong point of course) and that the final quarter of the fight would be all Leonard. He was spot on.
     
  12. McGrain

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    Nice prediction. I would be unbeareable if I had made that prediction.
     
  13. My dinner with Conteh

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    It's a great piece. He really knows his stuff and sees weaknesses in both. I'll have to read it again but I recall he felt Leonard 'cocked' his punches way too much.
     
  14. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also folks,in no other fight in hearns long career did he have any history of making weight incorrectly.
    Tommys stamina was pretty impressive in this fight,outpunching ray for the first five,getting a pasting in the 6th,then boxing and moving against ray from the seventh to the 12 then coping with barrages in the 13th and 14th....Can anyone show a fight of tommy when 'fully' hydrated when he showed more stamina,variety and skill than this?
     
  15. Sonny's jab

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    Hearns just wasn't strong or durable enough to last the 15 with Leonard once Leonard elected to brawl him.

    He wasn't strong or durable enough to last 3 with Hagler.

    Saying 2 extra pounds of weight would have allowed him to win against Leonard is incredible speculation.

    It's a far lesser speculation to suggest that Leonard could have carried on his onslaught for the 5 or so minutes left in the fight HAD Hearns been stronger or more durable.

    Hearns says he was comfortable at 145, and makes no suggestion that 147 would have been better. He clearly implies that he doesn't think so.