Tommy Hearns was not dehydrated or weight drained vs SRL

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by SuzieQ49, Apr 20, 2008.


  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're such a queen.

    You get your panties stuffed up your **** anytime someone questions you but yours are supposed to fly and be taken at face value.
     
  2. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually, he was just getting on his bicycle and we're not talking about that versatile a display. It was just a simple stick and move strategy.

    Tommy showed better stamina and looked stronger in the Minchillo fight. There you could say that was a strong performance. It's evident that Tommy did not hit his peak until '84.

    The only other fight I remember him in where he appeared drained was the Medal fight. Again, it was his last fight in the division as in the leonard fight.
     
  4. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I read Steward saying that Hearns overtrained. He claimed that he couldn't make Hearns take a rest. The body shots that leonard landed in the 6th (I think it was) won him that fight.

    I think the reason people go on and on about it is because Leonard won with a great performance but the difference between the two is slight. Both great fighters.

    Main difference look at leonard in round 2 in Duran I. He's all but out but he knows how to survive. He puts a lock on Duran and stops him from working him over. When Hearns gets hurt he just puts his hands up.
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Arcel AND Manny said it, two of the most knowledgable players ever in the game.

    I think they know what they're talking about.
     
  6. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    Tommy Hearns said it! Who gives a **** what others say. I'm pretty sure the man knows himself better then those two.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tommy Hearn's is the most humble guy in the history of the game. He refused to take breathing medication because he felt it would give him an unfair advantage, for christs sake.

    He's a throwback to a more courteous era.

    Joe Louis said he could never beat Marciano.

    Burely said he could never beat Robinson.

    Is either 100% fact?
     
  8. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    I'd believe Tommy Hearns about himself more than the other 2. And as gracious and humble as Hearns is, from what I've seen he isn't a huge fan of Leonard.
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    It seems that some posters can kid people for so long but eventually the chaff will be separated from the wheat. ;)
     
  10. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Yes, remember the rematch was going to be on (according to leonard) if Hearns just said he lost fair and square or something similar.
     
  11. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You must be ****ing kidding me!!! Why is this thread still going on, it started by ending the discsussion. If Hearn's said he was in great shape and at his natural weight, then that's it. ****, this is stupid. Both were in great shape, but Leonard was slightly better on the night. Case closed.

    All this bull**** about finding the hidden angles, jesus. It's irritating enough that so many have a hard time taking results on their face value, but when the guy himself goes on record and dispels all doubts about his shape then it's ****ing insane that people won't accept it.
     
  12. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    amen :happy
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    It's just that some people hate facing the facts, especially when it's came from the horses mouth. People have had this the weight issues and stamina problems soaked into their brains for years. And when they see this they would prefer to continue to believe what they have believed in the past.
     
  14. Scorpion

    Scorpion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bro in boxing ANYTHING happens (Tyson- Douglas).
     
  15. SchweitzerMan

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    Yeah, this should end the debate. Hearns is my favourite fighter of all time but on that night Ray Leonard was just a little bit better. Tommy wasn't weight drained or dehydrated and had he been facing anyone else, even Duran, I think he would have won