Tommy Loughran vs. Charley Burley

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Burley steps up in weight once again to fight one of Philly's finest.
    Who and why?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Loughran. Tommy has more than a little in common with Holman Williams who was around the same size as Burley - an absolute master boxer who lacks a KO punch. Williams gave Burley plenty of trouble as we know - it's hard to see how Burley could overcome Lougrhan's natural advantages in size as well as his supernatural skill.

    A hard fought and dull but perfectly fought UD for Loughran.
     
  3. jaywilton

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    (My uncle Allen S.Rosenfeld wrote a 600 page book on Charley Burley)Burley split several fights with Holman Williams-and they were both thrown out of the ring in one of them for lack of action.Maybe his most legendary win was beating Archie Moore after being called at the last minute.He fought a lot of bigger guys;he lost to Lloyd Marshall.I think there is only one film of him,against 175 lb. contender Oakland Billy Smith,whom he decisioned.I think he'd go the distance with Loughran;the decision would be interesting.It would be even more interesting if Burley trained properly for the fight.
     
  4. McGrain

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    jaywilton, that book is a masterpeice. Honestly, I'm a big Burley fan but it still felt like that book opened up a whole new universe - how he was able to engage with so many fighters I will never know. You tell him from me if you would be so kind - he wrote a masterpeice.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I cant improve on your prediction.
     
  6. jaywilton

    jaywilton Member Full Member

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    Thanks;I told him-then tried to update his computer skills so he could thank you...then log in problems.I think we'll get there in the next couple of days.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Quality. Be nice to well done him, but never worry if it can't be done.
     
  8. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thanks for the opinions everyone. I'll go with Loughran as well, it would be simply great boxing between these two technicians
     
  9. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Charley Burley-Oakland Billy Smith
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    Loughran-Braddock
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    If Tommy Loughran had had a punch, he'd have been the Benny leonard of the Light Heavyweight division.

    Loughran-Micky Walker
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    Interestingly, both Burley and Loughran in some ways look like older generation fighters: I'm thinking of the ability to slip as well (or even in preference) to blocking; feinting then mixing in longer leads; tieing up while getting in punches; superb balance; drawing long punches to counter; mid-range combinations when their opponent is out of position; using a punch or feint to move their opponents into position for a follow-up; and they know where they want to be after punching. They have a lower hand position than one sees now, but their ability to slip lets them get away with it and have hands free for counters. Their footwork is active but more economical and purposive than the modern 'perpetual bounce'.
     
  10. teeto

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    I think Loughran aswell , i rate him alongside the very best company at 175 . Burley would probably do well , as he usualy did with bigger men . But Loughran is one of the best straight up boxers ever , his jab was great and footwork aswell . Burley might have his moments , but not too many . Loughran in my opininon
     
  11. ThinBlack

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    Loughran beats Burley on a nailbiter.Most likely a split decision.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Good analysis.:good
     
  13. PowerPuncher

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    Loughran maybe a style that Burley can beat, Burley being faster and a more complete boxer who maybe able to take away Loughran's jab. He lacks the power to make a massive issue of his size. He also drew with the similarly sized Walker, although Walker was bigger and an aggressive come forward boxer

    Burley ofcourse beat Archie Moore, albeit at the 160 limit, and Billy Oakley Smith, who wasn't quite as good. He lost Charles and Bivins although those men really imposed their size on him
     
  14. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Allens been dead for years now!!??
     
  15. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lookit the date of the thread...