Tommy Morrison vs Floyd Patterson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Longhhorn71, Apr 10, 2008.


  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Does Floyd get to use steroids too? Floyd is faster, more skilled, better footwork, better timing. The size question mark is the only real issue, but despite his size/steroid use Morrison has chin issues
     
  2. Sonny's jab

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    I'm not going to pick a winner because doing so is virtually meaningless and it doesn't prove anything.

    But I'm a bit surprised to see people saying Morrison would blast out Floyd.
    I think Patterson was the better boxer.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Morrison was a poor finnisher, slow and uncoordinated with weak legs. He was lucky to get the stoppage against Rudduck too
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    And remember Ingemar Johanson and Chuvalo weren't quite the punchers Morrison was but overall their offense was better
     
  5. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Morrison by KO, he was always able to connect, he's got serious power and will tag Floyd, and Floyd will fall
     
  6. Sonny's jab

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    Morrison tended to beat guys who were ridiculously easy to hit, set-ups, shot fighters, and mooses like Foreman and Ruddock.
    He had trouble with anyone who was slightly cagey.Even an over-the-hill Carl Williams - who you'd figure as meat for a young left-hooker - gave Morrison problems.

    Floyd at his best doesn't present an easy target. The post-Liston Floyd especially. He was a very good boxer. Morrison hits hard enough to knock Patterson out with one punch or effectively end it with one, but so too did Moore, Quarry, Johansson in two rematches, probably Bonavena and Chuvalo too.

    I would have thought Patterson being the far better boxer, and capable of KOing Tommy, would make a quick Morrison win most unlikely.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Wasn't aware they fought

    :D
     
  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    we are looking at styles here. Floyds superior defense/head movement/blocking skills combined with his amazing handspeed/combinations/power in both fists will allow him to get under tommys big wallops and land first.........and when floyd lands he will finish off tommy. Floyd is in a different class. Watchingf some of his fights, you can see Tommy would have a lot of trouble with the peek a boo style, he likes more stationary stand up targets.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

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    George Chuvalo and charley powell. Johannson and Bonavena were 205lb.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    This was not your original comment. You said " was Floyd ever knocked out in one round by Michael Bentt?" Therefore, I figured you were looking at a weak performance of Morrison rather than the whole picture in terms of styles. Incidentally, I'd pick Floyd too, but its not out of the question that a fast starting south paw with Morrison's power and aggressivness could beat him. Floyd was a better fighter from a technical standpoint, but if he got hit, its not unreasonable to assume that he'd be in big trouble. Patterson was floored somewhere between 17-20 times in his career and was knocked out or TKO'd on several occasions. He could certainly fall victom to a guy like the Duke, but again, I'd still favor Floyd.
     
  11. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yes, he was. However, I don't hold that performance against Patterson. Morrison was not known for his counter-right hand anyway.

    I can see Morrison giving Patterson a lot of trouble early on. Morrison was offensively well schooled, obviously had a great left hook, and was a very accurate puncher. I would not be surprised at all if Patterson visited the canvas on multiple occasions.

    However, I think Patterson's superior speed, defensive skill and most of all stamina would bail him out of this one. It's worth nothing that, while Morrison has a size advantage, he was never known as a mauler. He rarely initiated clinches, didn't push opponents around (even when they were smaller) and didn't lean on his opponents on the inside. If you've got to face a heavier man, Morrison is the kind of man you want to face.

    Floyd was still a very dangerous boxer after four rounds of tough boxing, while Morrison tended to need a second wind by that point. That's when I think Patterson would really start to catch him and take him out

    Patterson TKO5 would be what I'd expect.
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    Me too, unless Tommy got him first.
     
  13. The Kurgan

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    There certainly is that possibility. However, I suspect Patterson's defence and Morrison's questionable finishing ability would bail Floyd out most of the time. It would be a real edge-of-your-seat affair, considering their respective power and chin, just like Ruddock-Morrison was.
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    Agreed on all of the above points.
     
  15. ChrisPontius

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    The Chuvalo fight was very close (a knowlegdeable poster here had him winning), Powel was nothing special.

    Johansson of course knocked Patterson silly and Bonavena was another loss. Maybe a controversial one, but it's fair to say that his record against big men was nothing to write home about. Morrison punches harder than all of them, although he doesn't have the stamina or chin of a Chuvalo, obviously.