Tommy Morrison vs. Joe Louis

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Seamus, Apr 12, 2019.


Tommy Morrison vs. Joe Louis

  1. Tommy by KO

    18 vote(s)
    15.3%
  2. Tommy by Dec.

    1 vote(s)
    0.8%
  3. Joe by KO

    98 vote(s)
    83.1%
  4. Joe by Dec.

    1 vote(s)
    0.8%
  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    You already know I'm right.

    You won't show me video of technical 90s fighters because you know it doesn't exist.

    You've watched the vids of Louis. Anyone who watches vids of Louis immediately knows that he's better than 90s fighters unless they're blind.

    You're not blind. So you obviously realize Louis is better, but won't admit it.

    Your turn. :zpong:
     
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  2. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    see what you said 1930s movement where is the vid I asked for of him using 70s-90s movement
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    1970s-90s movement is degraded trash. Why would the amazing Joe Louis want to move like a degraded 70s-90s fighter?

    Show me vids of 70s-90s fighters moving like superior, technical 1930s fighters, or admit defeat.

    Your turn. :zpong:
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I am not a big fan of the modern fighters are better argument, but even if you are, then this is not an appropriate use of it.

    Morrison was not all that good relative to his era, so even if his era was better, that doesn't necessarily translate into him beating Louis.

    Morrison was not very big in absolute terms, and Louis was not very small in absolute terms.

    Louis was almost exactly the same size and Evander Holyfield, who was obviously big enough in Morrison's era.

    Morrison was not technically brilliant by the standards of his era, so that would negate any advance in boxing technique.

    Even Louis was as bad as people say, Morrison obviously had critical issues with his durability and stamina, which would give anybody with power a good chance against him.
     
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  5. doopapoopy

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    Cute, as I stated before. I only type/talk to people who actually understand pro boxing. If you think a boxer who turned pro in the 1930's was more skilled than a modern boxer then you clearly don't know boxing. If you think a 195 pound boxer who got knocked down various times by sub 200 pound guys like Joe Louis did could beat the 6'2 230 pound Tommy Morrison then you don't know boxing.

    You get ignored now.
     
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  6. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Morrison isn't modern though, at this point he is ancient history. His prime was during the Bush/Clinton presidency

    Morrison wasn't among the best of his era either and wasn't tested against good opponents under 200. There is no logical reason say guys under 200 pounds couldn't beat Morrison.
     
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  7. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In Morrison's era a former light heavyweight called Michael Moorer became heavyweight champion of the world. So much for little men not cutting it in his day.

    Oh, and Holyfield who debuted as a pro at 178 pounds became heavyweight champ and beat Douglas weighing 208 pounds, close to what Louis weighed.
     
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  8. janitor

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    Holyfield would have beaten him under 200lbs, and so would Chris Byrd.
     
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  9. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    he doesn't think that he is trolling what is shown shows tom and his era was way more skilled and moved better like you said the people who dropped joe easy tom hit way harder then them and wouldnt get hit while fighting them
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    His combos were awful, I don`t think you`ve ever seen Joe fight.
     
  11. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    you dont think legend mark facts show I have cause I can say what I can and no his combos wasnt bad maybe you haven't seen him

    you left out legend mark Joe didnt do those fancy combos with people who moved he only could do it when they stood still like most people who leave it out

    it's way more impressive to hit a moving person why did you leave out a moving person that joe did that against is it cause you know his combos didnt land as often and he didnt look as good doing it
     
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  12. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The poll is way closer than I thought it would be
     
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  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    LOL. Only NOW you’re happy to indulge in the correct definition for a word. While you were there, you should’ve looked up troll also.

    Well, you’re still wrong and FAKE.

    Doopa’s first post referenced weight and weight only. You made no comment - you in fact “liked”’ his post - you made no reply re weight. Are you following this so far?

    I replied to Doopa refuting his points re weight and then he replied back to me.

    You again “liked” his post and in fact replied to his 2nd post - writing “they” to Doopa “they” being a third party reference, therefore that excludes Doopa, doesn’t include Doopa, leaves Doopa out, etc. etc.

    I see that you like to play dumb on language to allow yourself escape options when you’re called out for your statements.

    However, you swooped in on the correct definition for “they” because you thought it would extricate you from what you were clearly intending to say otherwise. It didn’t.

    Your current position on “they” has you liking both Doopa’s posts, directly replying to his 2nd post, but in using the term “they” (incorrectly) in your reply to Doopa, you were somehow meaning to also include Doopa himself as being an idiot and simple minded - SINCE he clearly accented heavily on weight alone in both his posts.

    NO, that wasn’t your intended meaning. You were just falling in with someone who picked Tommy over Joe, no matter how they came to conclude same.

    YOU only baulked and a made a noise when Doopa’s “workings” re weight were used right back at him to Louis’ advantage.
     
  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Cases of re-spawning, eh? MPD is apparently rife around here.
     
  15. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    LOL, liking and agreeing with another post accenting heavily on weight/size to Joe’s alleged detriment but when it’s employed to Joe’s advantage - the Old Money quickly switches horses.