Crabtree’s movement would make primitive fighters like Louis, Tunney and Ali look like stone statues with pigeon shlt all over them. All you have to do to evaluate a fighter is look at the year he was born.
At least the Carnera thread had (some) genuinely well thought out arguments (although many replies were obviously just for attention or trolling). It was also a hell of a lot funnier whether intentional or not. This was a dumpster fire from day 1. It was the same old people making the same arguments over and over again. The horrendous grammar, terrible logic, and the refusal to answer basic questions made it 10x worse. I have seen casuals arguing on YouTube, the barbershop, or in break rooms at work that made more sense.
This thread here by a landslide. We has advanced movement over here. Just don't ask me for an example.