Toney 160-168

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  1. pehun

    pehun Member Full Member

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    vs...
    Hopkins?
    Calzaghe?
    Taylor (the one that beat BHop)?
    Abraham?
    Pavlik?

    Your pick and justifications.
     
  2. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A Prime and ready Toney beats them all.
     
  3. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When did this Toney ever enter the ring?
     
  4. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney has some amazing skills. He's a once in a generation type of fighter. I know he has the ability to beat all these guys.
     
  5. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    In the early 90s, when at 160-168, like the TS asked. Try to keep up.
     
  6. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When getting controversial decisions against Reggie Johnson and an ancient Mike McCallum you mean?
     
  7. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This Toney right here.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqlz5oxknf0[/ame]
     
  8. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins wins. Hopkins is more versatile, and can win from the outside. Toney does not deal well with movers. Plus, B-Hop can hold his own on the inside. Hopkins UD.

    Calzaghe can win from sheer punch volume. Toney has been outworked by lesser fighters. But, if Toney is at his best, he is a better fighter, and will score cleaner more effective punches. It's close on the cards, and can go either way depending on who is keeping score.

    Toney knocks Taylor out.

    Toney outworks Abraham. Abraham gives away all of theearly rounds, and unlike most other victims, he's not stopping Toney. Toney win by UD.

    Toney knocks Pavlik out.
     
  9. pehun

    pehun Member Full Member

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    Or knocking out Nunn or Barkley
     
  10. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think the myth of Toney outweighs the reality (which isn't easy, given what a fat **** he is). If you put together a highlight reel of his best moments he looks like a genuine all-time great, but how many great performances has he really put in over the course of his career? Not that many, and it's been a ****ing long career. He failed to turn up in too many fights.
     
  11. Big Left

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    Good shout, for me B-Hop & Calazghe get the win (Hopkins with ring smarts and Calzaghe with workrate).

    Taylor, Pavlik and AA I think beaten.
     
  12. pehun

    pehun Member Full Member

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    I forgot to mention Eubank and Benn
     
  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Prime Toney was one of the best fighters I've ever seen. Great all around fighter.

    1. Toney was alittle faster, harder puncher than Bhops at 160-168. It would go down to a split decision that's for sure. I think Toney might take this one. He had legs and defense better than Hopkins and was like watching a heavier version of Floyd as he ducked, shoulder rolled, and slipped alot of punches. He could fight inside and out equally as well and he could punch when he wanted. More active than Hopkins too. Toney SD12

    2. Calzaghe had trouble with fighters with speed and a prime Roy or Toney school him for most of the fight. It would be competitive, but as long as they kept him at a distance and not mix it up they win. Toney did love to mix it up, so Joe would win some rounds, but I think Toney would win 7 rounds out of 12. His defense was also way better than Joe's and might score a knockdown along the way. MD for Lights Out

    3. I never thought Taylor beat Hopkins. One should of been a draw and the other a Hopkins win. Toney on another level than Taylor. Taylor likes to start fast and Toney might take his best shots, but Toney would outsmart him and take advantage of Taylor in the later rounds and it's all target practice for Toney. Toney TKO 11.

    4. This is a tough one. Toney is like a mix of Lucian Bute with Bhops, a southpaw with a very offense and very good defense. Toney would have to fight on the backfoot for this one and fight backwards. I think it would be a very boring fight stylewise with neither getting much through their defense, AA to predictable and Toney not landing much past AA's guard. I think Toney would catch AA with a counter when AA throws one of those wild hooks, but I don't know if AA's pressure coming forward all the time would make Toney fight off the ropes like with Barkley. AA isn't a past his prime Barkley and has the power of a lightheavyweight, but I don't think he catches Toney flush. I think it's either a draw or a Toney SD.

    5. Against Pavlik, he also fights off the backfoot like he would vs. Abraham, but Pavlik much more hittable and easier to find since he has no defense. Too slick, too fast, and too smart. Toney UD 12
     
  14. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    I love it when assholes like you say dumb **** like that and prove you never seen the fight and just go to boxrec and see SD and that Toney got KD. That fight was not close Toney dominated from the 3rd round.

    And that "ancient" McCallum that again Toney won there first fight the second was close and couldve went either way was better then any middleweight around today and besides Hopkins and Jones probably the best since Hagler.:goodGet some knowledge young buck ad try actually watching the fights.
     
  15. EleventhHour

    EleventhHour Got Dat Black & Gold Soul Full Member

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    A Prime and focused Toney beats them all, except maybe B-Hop. Maybe.