Toney: "Klitschos - the only way you are going to get paid is by fighting me!"

Lol seriously man. Both Klits already getting pay alot and i do mean alot of money so they don't need Toney for a big pay day cause they already getting big pay days. If we talking about Toney that tko Holyfield then frost has a point but now? Toney don't being anything to the table.

 

Frost said that Toney needs a couple of wins against good oponents and that THEN Toney - Vitali would be a big money fight.

What part do you not agree with? Obviously, if he adds a couple of decent wins, he is not shot and s Toney - Vitali would generate a lot of interest and money.

 

What kind of big money fights are we talking about? Vitali is already getting pay alot of money anyway so again Vitali don't need Toney for a big money cause he's already getting big money. What Toney needs to do is fight real challengers like Ruiz rematch, Tua, Cameron, Chagaev.

 

No problem. I think we all agree that Toney needs a couple of decent wins as Vitali does not need Toney at this stage. Toney has to prove first that he still is a Top Heavyweight.

 

Yes, why? I never stated something else..

Scar asked if Toney ever officially challenged the Klitschkos when they didn't have a fight scheduled, and I answered that he had. Twice. That was it. I never claimed that Wlad should have fought Toney instead of Chagaev - Chagaev was regarded as the true WBA 'champ', and the fight was in Germany, these two facing each other was the logic thing to do after both their respective fights fell apart.

As for Wlad facing Hasim Rahamn, I have a different opinion, but I didn't even state it in my post. At least read a post before you reply to it and try to interprete things into it that aren't there.

 

As I stated, Toney has to prove that he has something left first before he can challenge a Klitschko.

But even if he faced one of the Klitschkos now, it would generate a lot of interest. Be he shot or not. Likewise, Vitali-Holyfield would generate more interest than Vitali-Arreola or Vitali-Gomez. Hell, Vitali-Tyson would generate more interest, even now. I don't understand why Toneys last fight wasn't shown on TV, well it probably was because he faced an opponent that maybe even wasn't C-level, but just look at the number of threads about Toney here on ESB after that fight, that should give you an idea that people still care. They care more about Toney on the undercard than about Andre Ward, who was the main event (because Dan Goosen wanted it that way). There were maybe a couple threads about Ward-Pudwill, not many people gave a damn. Toney vs. 'some bum' got a lot of attention however.

 

Ward - Pudwill was a tune up fight, and Toney was a comeback fight from a HOF fighter.

 

Toney prime would do no better than Byrd against Wlad. Just recently, when he was supposed to be in shape again, he was hit cleanly by a fighter rated outside top100.

He is over 40, and his style was based in good part on speed, which is one of the first things to go. While I agree with him Klitschkos are not entertaining to watch, he is no longer entertaining himself.

 

Wlad filled a football stadium in his last fight, the only thing Toney is filling nowaday is his stomach.

The Klitschkos need Toney, really?

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Nobody wants to see Toney, if we do we want to see him retired

 

Yeah, uhm.. yeah.. he needs Toney, sure..

 

How delusional is Toney? Toney has never been a draw. Ever.

 

Ok, Toney's a funny guys and says silly things to get attention - at what point do we sit him down, pat him on the head, give him a cookie and nicely tell him to go away and never come back because he's crossed the point of delusion.

 

Either Klitschko (especially Wlad) would bust the Toney of today's fat ass up.

 

Toney should go up against that "Man versus Food" guy on ppv.