Toney now has had THREE heavyweight wins taken away from him......

Steroids is cheating. If you're gonna use them, at least don't be stupid enough to get caught.

That win means nothing in everyones eyes.

 

1. He quit when he said "I can't see" It would be the same as if Rahman twisted his knee or his back, or hurt his wrist and couldnt continue to fight. I believe thats how Jameel McCline lost a big fight.

 

....I'm not sure I'm following this bolded part here.

You're telling me that Toney WON that fight?

I think my ears are bleeding

 

Be easy there cup cake....I perfer boxer breifs FYI. However, I'm sure your panties are very nice. J/k....Man, we can get technical and muddy the waters up all you want, but it's clear as day the man who was looking for a way out had "QUIT" in his heart. he didn't have to say the words to show it all over his face and by his actions. that is good enough for me.

Rock quit as soon as he told the ring side phsician that he could not see!. That is an unspoken rule that boxers do not say unless they are not willing to continue. IF....Rock really couldnt see, then I'd understand, but C'mon now bro, you saw the cut. I don't need to dive in to that debate.

The doc asked Rock 3 times if he could see and if he wanted to continue. ROCK himself would not answer the Doctor's question on if he wanted to continue...ROCK chose NOT to answer and force the Doc to make a decision based on the fighters words...NOT what he felt should happen. the Ring side physician told EVERYONE plain as day that he thought Rock could continue, but based on what ROCK said he had to make the call....

THAT sir is Quiting. Murders are Murders right? But sometimes MURDERS are set free on Technicallities, that doesn't change the fact they took a life or lives in the past. Rock is a quiter, Just b/c a technicality says otherwise doesn't change that fact.

 

My Man! :good If Jack see it then you gotta believe!

 

Its not confidence...Confidence is something you have when you are unsure.. I know what I saw and I know who won the fight, so does James and Hasim....and it wasn't Hasim.

 

Sounds like head trama to me bro. That's not good. Which may be the reason why it's hard for you to follow.:think

 

Rahman won that first fight.
In fact, Rahman has been out right robbed of a W by two midgets.:deal

 

Actually people here constantly bash Ruiz for losing two former middleweights. So majority of people do indeed think that Toney’s win was legit.
And when you think about it and forget your Toney hate, you will realize he totally schooled Ruiz in that fight.

 

I agree with you. Rahman cheated the fans so why do some people here keep defending him. He showed NO HEART, Toney has always showed us fans A LOT OF HEART. Just see the Little fight, Nunn or the second Peter fight, he is just a true fighter who does not know how the quit.

Toney has done more at heavyweight recently than Rahman. Some People keep saying who has Toney beat recently, but the again what has Rahman done recently, dropping decision to Ruiz and getting knocked out by Maskaev. Although I respect Rahman he has not shown as much in the last years. Toney has clearly more left in the tank and the vast majority of fans agree that he should fight Haye.

 

The only thing Rock was robbed of was his heart! And it might as well have been a midget that took that from him b/c he lost twice to a blown up MW with a HW's mouth. Not a good look for Hasim.:-( in fact it's humiliating.

 

How does everyone feel about a Toney vs Sanders prime for prime matchup? I think Sanders Flattens him in 1.

 

I'm with you right-up until you say that Rahman quit. Offcially, the cut was the result of an accidental headbutt; Rahman was obviously trying to work the Doc. to get a NC, and it worked. If the cut had been ruled to be resultant of a punch, then a TKO win for Toney would have been the appropriate call.

 

i had peter winning a wide UD in the first fight and Rahman was a NC to anyone who is unbiased

 

Yes, he schooled Ruiz. And, I think he would have done so without the use of steroids. Unfortunately, Toney is a dumbass and it rightfully costed him a win and the title.