Toney would have struggled with Calzaghe

Murderers row right there :rofl

And Toney actually beat this phenom :rofl

 

What does this have to do with a fight against Calzaghe at 168?

 

Thats right a whos who, from his era even to today where the era is not as strong

Eubank SMW champ
Reid SMW champ
Jones Jnr SMW champ
Woodhall SMW champ
Veit int SMW champ
Lacy SMW champ
Brewer SMW champ
Mitchell SMW champ
Kessler SMW champ
Bika SMW champ

:yep

Plenty.
Toney as Headbanger notes squeezes past Jirov and it suddenly becomes a debate that he could beat a great like Calzaghe atsch.
Toneys resume isnt even close to Calzaghes and consider that in the 2 weight divisions they both fought in (SMW & LHW), Calzaghe has a far greater resume in both and he only had 2 fights at LHW :smoke

 

Struggled with Jirov? The guy he rocked,stunned and dropped?

 

Toney at his best would beat joes ass. Were talking prime for prime. Not joe having more ledt than a shot jones and acting like he beat the best jones.

 

this has been broken down for you and countered so many times but you still keep posting the list with the justification that its not been countered yet...

completely invalid championship claims
Eubank SMW champ - he was finished with his career and had won nothing in his last few years nor in the last one following, and not even a defence. bad start to your list.
Jones Jnr SMW champ - he was finished, worse than finished, not a justifiable fight based on him being a world champion
Woodhall SMW champ - he was finished, end of career, last fight, not a justifiable defence in the slightest, a short term title holder incapable of defending it, and given a final payday by Joe as a friend
Veit int SMW champ -veit was king of 4 to 6 rounders in Germany and a **** opponent both times, and a **** world champion incapable of making a defence

weak title fights
Mitchell SMW champ - on a serious losing streak so a weak defence but good finishing by Joe lift it to reasonable level, and was a crap temporary champion even when he got a title.

reasonable defences
Bika - against a tv show boxer but a spirited if basic opponent who was unable to keep a title
Lacy - universally acknowledged as a weak opponent migitated by a strong performance from joe. A poor, incapable champion nevertheless.
Brewer - not a bad opponent, a good skillset match up for Joe, but again a bit part champion who couldn't keep a title.
Reid - a good opponent but arguably a draw or loss for Joe. incapable champion but good opps on a single night who was borderline elite.

good defence
Kessler SMW champ - genuine good defence against a decent champion. the only really good one, probably elite if not for him being a thick ******* who neglectsd his fitness.

This is not to include the terrifically bad defences of joe that you missed out, of which there are a dozen. A dozen!!

 

Mario Veit's first scheduled 12 rounder was a World title shot at Calzaghe, all his fights leading up to that had been 4 and 6 rounders against the lowest level of bums the SMW division had to offer. bailey always mention Veit as one of Joe's best defences

 

Veit is one of Joe's best opponents....lol

 

Who did Toney beat at SMW or LHW that gives you that impression :think

 

except Jirov got up . Cal wasn't going to get up if Toney dropped him like that.
Toney would shoulder roll those pitter pats and damn near knock his head off with that counter right.

 

atsch Yeah because when have you seen Calzaghe staggering around the ring and having to hold on to survive. Calzaghe may have gone down but always got up to win, never having to hold or on weak legs. In 46 fights all wins and 24 world title fights he was hardly ever on the back foot, but somehow you think Toney who did hardly anything at SMW would beat the best SMW ever

 

hes still defending 4-6 rounder SuperVeit! after all these years (altrhough I do recall about six months when he stopped defending veit when everyone laughed him off doing it).

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

 

Cant see how I have been laughed off. Consider that Veit has a better resume than most of the current top 10

The first time Calzaghe beat Veit, Veit was 30-0 and hadnt beaten anyone of real note, hence he was blown away in a round by Calzaghe.
When Calzaghe beat Veit a 2nd time Veit was an accomplished world rated 45-1 fighter who had some solid victories behind him, and was top 10 rated.
Veit had beaten undefeated Dziarra who wasnt a great fighter but did go on to beat L Mock and undefeated M Oral who would go on to challenge MW champs A Abraham and S Sylvester recently.
Veit had also beaten beaten undefeated Guerrero for the European union title.
Veit beat future title challenger Salem and Mock.
Veit also beat world rated C Brewer with an educated destructive 9th round KO.
A note on Veit. He only ever lost to world champs or fighters who became world champs and has victories over Mock, Salem, Perdermo (a future Kessler challenger), Brewer when Brewer was world rated and Veit beat undefeated Braehmer who became WBO LHW champ
Veit became WBO interim champ also.
A good Calzaghe victory over a mandatory world class SMW
Also a great away victory for Calzaghe in Germany

Notice Herol cant debate any counter point atsch:yep