Tonight 8/7 Alexander vs Kotelnik Cloud vs Johnson RBR

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  1. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    You're biased against Glen though, you *******. :lol:
     
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  2. AceNguyen

    AceNguyen Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This isn't the amateurs. Hard punches count more than light punches in pro boxing.
     
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  3. kirk

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    Im sorry its got to be like this for Johnson, i feel for him. Even if the decision is legit, im sure GJ seriously felt he won and he put all he had into this fight and training and he thinks this is one of his last chances so i dont hold him not being so accepting of defeat against him. I hope he takes pride and some moral victory that he knows if he was a few years younger he would probably have won this fight.
     
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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    You realize there isn't really a difference between a unanimous and a split or majority decision, right? A points win is a points win. A UD can in some weird cases even be closer than a SD/MD (ie: 115-113 on all three cards would be closer than a split of 117-111 for one guy against 116-112 and 118-110 for the other guy).

    Whether all three judges reach consensus does not in and of itself tell whether or not it was a "close" decision. That you can only tell from the individual scores.
     
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  5. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    He honestly hasn't been robbed that many times, he just fights in a lot of close fights.. there is a difference. He just doesn't do enough a lot of times to totally swing rounds his way without question, thus why he's in so many close fights.

    He was a ***** in that interview, trying to play off that he wasn't hurt is lame.
     
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  6. VIP

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    Really got to feel for Johnson. He never gets the decisions. 116-112 is surprising across the board in a pretty close fight that could have gone either way but ends up going to the young guy.
     
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  7. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    I gave GJ most of the close rds, because frankly Cloud cant deal with offense. He goes into a a shell and Glens jab was far suoerior. If you give those close rds to Cloud imo you end up with a draw. I felt GJ did enough to win this fight.

    There was not enough emphasis on GJ's defense. Cloud hit gloves most of the time.
    I would have accepted a 115-113 Cloud at the most without it being shady.

    I had glen winning the fight.
     
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  8. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed. It was a good fight. I had it 115-113 for Cloud. I would have liked to give the 12th to GJ, but couldn't. Can't argue with anything from 116-112 Cloud to 115-113 Johnson. Good, tough fight.
     
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  9. Lenin Cat

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    Cloud has nice accent and some good lines :)
    "you off balance, that's you fault"
    "I hurt you like you aint never been hurt in your life"
    "you ain't won this fight glen"
     
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  10. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Dont work that way slick.
     
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  11. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    i dont think anyone is crying robbery. But GJ did throw more and land more. So i dont think that was the issue. Glen controlled the fight more with hsi jab and had better defense as well.

    Dunno..felt GJ deserved that
     
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  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Doesn't count that 3 times more "light" punches are landed, right? :-(
     
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  13. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Damn 18 years for alex's bro. You wouldnt get half that in the UK.
     
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  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm glad you're so sure of yourself in a discussion of something almost infinitely variable. Kudos.
     
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  15. TBomb 25

    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Im not impressed with Cloud,he eats jabs and righthands,like he needs them in his diet.
     
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