Tonight, Adamek Became a Real Heavyweight

As they say 'my bad'.
Maybe I should try reading your posts more carefully in future.atsch

 

Walker couldn't put a dent in Estrada, but he knocked down Arreola (who Vitali couldn't put a dent in) and he's knocked down Vitali in sparring.

He also was never knocked down in a very extensive amateur career.

It's pretty safe to say that Estrada has a good chin. More importantly though, he rolls with the punches well, meaning it's rare that anyone lands a clean full force shot to his head.

That said, he wouldn't have needed an "iron" chin to not get knocked down, since Adamek didn't land on him clean much.

 

I'm a Haye fan. I'm hardly a 'nut hugger'. You can go through my posts if you like, and try to provide some evidence where i've massively overrated Haye's achievements/abilities or exhibited deluded qualities.
Back to this thread.
Pretty much this entire thread consists of you presenting suppositions as fact, or just voicing idle specualtions such as:

'Adamek could not put JE on the canvas, but it may likely turn out that no one will ever do this, at least in Jason's prime'

Idle speculation.

'Estrada is a much faster puncher than Arroeola or Povetkin and has a vastly better chin than all these 3 fighters'

Where's your proof that 'Estrada has a vastly better chin' than Arreola or Povetkin?

'Newsflash: Arreola's chin is no where near Adamek's.'

Again where's you proof that Adamek can has a better chin then Arreola?
There's a big difference between taking what Cunningham can dish out, and taking a solid beating over ten rounds form Vitali.

'Estrada is ranked top 15 by every major alphabet and in my view, he beats half of the untested jokers in front of him on that list.'

First of all, you started that statement of with A MASSIVE LIE. Estrada isn't ranked in the top 15 of any of the major alphabets. You might want to refrain from posting such crap, because it only further weakens your already diminishing credibility. And you have the temerity to call me a nuthugger?
Secondly on what grounds do you think estrada 'beats half the untested jokers in front of him'?
The two times he has stepped up in class, he's been handled with ease.
I had him losing by nine rounds to three against Adamek.

'Arreola is crude and his resume is thin. People need to wake up from this American hype job. '

Arreola's 'resume is thin', but the unproven Estrada's is not. Real unbiased assessment there.

Seriously man. Threads like this will only attract criticism for Adamek. This thread is seriously counterproductve. At least let a balanced contributor like Wiesiek or Jetski fight your cause.

 

Sorry to point this out again, but how did you think you would get away with posting such a brazen lie.
We've all got access to the same websites.
Well those of us posting from within democracies.
Did you not think anybody would check?

 

This is why I believe he should have waited till after the Estrada fight to start unofficial negotiations, or even further he shouldn't have even been "opponent name fishing" before the Estrada fight. TA said himself it was a tough fight, much tougher than he expected. Setting himself up, even in speculation and rumors, before the Estrada fight to face Arreola might bite him in the a$$ having to fight Arreola in a little over 2 months. You might be right saying he might lose some momentum prolonging the gap between his next fight, but I believe that would be mostly in the eyes of general boxing fans, not his most loyal fans, the Polish fans. I think the gap between now and his next fight is going to be the most important and will require the biggest amount of preparation and adjustment. I also realize TA is 34, he really has no time to spare, but one more tune up fight before facing a top 10 HW won't hurt, if anything it will just toughen him up in regards to boxing at HW.

 

I don't doubt that he's got a very good chin.
However I feel it's definitely been overstated since Adamek failed to put a dent in him.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201734

In the thread above 75 of 133 voters predicted Adamek would kayo Estrada. And now suddenly Estrada has a confirmed granite chin.
Me, i'll reserve judgement till Estrada fights somebody in the pro ranks who
A) Has above average hw power
B) Catches him cleanly on multiple occasions.
And i'm pretty sure Povetkin would've stopped him if they had fought over 12 rounds. Estrada was hurt badly on a couple of occasions in that last round. It might've been his lack of cardio that was letting him down, but regardless he looked ready to go on a couple of occasions.

 

NABF

 

:good Yup. Not trying to really 'knock' Adamek, but the win over Estrada should be kept in perspective.

 

Yep, now we'll see who will 'knock' who against Cristobal.

 

Cry me a river. :good

 

I've provided proof that you hmm, let's be diplomatic - bend the truth.
Feel free to provide proof that I nut hug, rather than just idly asserting it without evidence.
As regards the accusation that i've 'taken all (your) comments out of the context in which (you) were responding', let's start with your opening post.
In the opening post of this thread, where you were stating your position & not replying to any remarks/slurs, you stated:
'Adamek could not put JE on the canvas, but it may likely turn out that no one will ever do this, at least in Jason's prime.'
I repeat this was not in reply to any comments. It was in your opening statement. It is idle, baseless speculation.
Bodysnatcher claimed Arreola, Povetkin or Haye would stop Adamek within six rounds & that Adamek was 'bullied' by Estrada.
You responded that 'Estrada is a much faster puncher than Arroeola or Povetkin and has a vastly better chin than all these 3 fighters'.
Again to suggest Estrada has a much better chin than Arreola or Povetkin, is you stating your own unsubstantiated opinion as fact.
Ripple633 stated that Arreola hits 'harder (than Adamek) (is) just as durable with a good chin'.
You replied:'Newsflash: Arreola's chin is no where near Adamek's.'
Once again where's your proof. When has Adamek ever taken the kind of punishment that Vitali doled out to Arreola over 10 one-sided rounds?
So is that enough context for you?
Hint: next time you accuse somebody of sensationalising your posts, make sure you have a basis to so. Or at least go round editing your posts retrospectively to give the impression that they have been doing so.
And for your information I haven't seen one report that suggests Estrada had been robbed, and only one deluded nutjob on this forum had Estrada winning. I thought Adamek won convincingly 9-3, and pretty much everybody else feels the same.
The only questions that emerged were about Adamek's power & endurance.
Nobody questioned the result.