Tonight confirms Pacman beat a 'Shot' Morales

Morals = Jones
PAC = Milk Dude Tarver

 

It's kinda hard to figure out who is the better fighter in their prime. Morales beat Pacquiao clearly in their first fight, but he was faded. Pacquiao, however, was far too reliant on his left hand and may not have reached his technical peak yet. He is steadily getting better. Him beating Morales twice could be put down to Pac gettnig better and Morales getting worse.

Morales in his prime vs. Pacquiao now would be a very hard fight to pick. I don't think any of the three fights prove who would win, if both were at their best.

 

this is a ****** who has a pacman whooped your heroes ass syndrome :yep:yep

 

Raheem gets no credit at all for beating Morales. Its like you guys are mad that Erik lost to Raheem. Raheem even wobbled him good once and hes not even a power puncher. By the time Morales fought Pac in the rematch his legs were gone.

 

atsch look dont get too offended, take out pac's sack of your mouth and try to speak more clearly

 

why will i get offended dumb if a former 106 pounder made MAB, JMM, EM KISSED THE CANVASS 10 TIMES OR MORE in front of the world??? :good
NO WAY :hey:hey:hey

 

typical excuse:blood...how come morales made a fool of that champion just now?

 

What "champion"? David Diaz is a paper champ who Morales would have defeated with one hand behind his back in his prime

You want to watch a fighter go from good to shot in a span of 3 fights, watch Morales-Pac I, Morales-Raheem, Morales-Pac II

In Morales-Pac I, Morales was winning comfortable enough that in the 12th round he switched to southpaw and dared Pacquaio to knock him out, and he couldn't do it. That was the last time you saw Morales fighting on a high level. He looked like **** against Raheem in his very next fight but Pacquaio fanatics claim that Morales wasn't faded or shot in the second fight. Yeah right

 

Yes Morales was shot, you could actually see it in the third fight with Barrera.

 

if we always have to go to these "faded" or "shot" arguments all the time, then elite fighters like pac and hatton will never get the proper credit they deserve. they fight the people in front of them and there is always the possibility for them to lose and get hurt in the process.

we just watch the fights. it is them who are risking their very lives in that ring. it is therefore a great disservice to these fighters if we always try to belittle their efforts and accomplishments by resorting to these "shot" and "faded" arguments. that's just plain hating and there is no place for that in this very dangerous sport.

 

Well, the problem for Pac is that we saw him in the ring with a fading, but still top level version of Morales, and he lost without controversy. Pacquaio fans have a world of excuses for that but anyone with a functioning set of eyes can see that the Morales that was in against Raheem and against Pac in II and III was not the same man who was in there in the first Pac fight. And the Morales in the first Pac fight was not even a prime Morales, he was fading

 

hmm... i guess you didn't get the essence of my post then.

 

you're giving the light-punching raheem too much credit. pac certainly hit erik with much harder shots in their first fight especially in the 12th even though pac lost that one.

 

it was a schooling... not a bashing. even though he won, the first pac fight probably took a lot out of erik and raheem was just the beneficiary of this in their subsequent fight.

 

No, I got it. But the difference between Hatton and Pac is that Hatton didn't fight previous versions of Castillo to see what the diffrence would've been

You brought Hatton up. How would Hatton's win over Tszyu look if he'd fought and lost to Tszyu a year earlier? Probably not as good

That's the problem Manny faces. He already lost to Morales. He already lost to a past his prime Morales. So many people won't give him credit for beating the shot version. If Pacquaio had beaten a faded version of Morales but hadn't lost to the fresher version, he'd get more credit for beating EM. But it's hard to give that much credit to him for beating up a faded/shot fighter who already beat him clean when he wasn't so faded