Tony Ayala vs. Fully Obel

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  1. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All objective posters' (the few that are here) thoughts welcome...
     
  2. ThinBlack

    ThinBlack Boxing Addict banned

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    Fully would decision a game but overmatched Tony.
     
  3. Doc McCoy

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    Where does it end? Seriously, I sympathise with your condition but Jesus. Hey, maybe that can be your final thread, Tony Ayala v Jesus Christ. An Apocalyptic Showdown!!

    I'm not trying to be insensitive here but sort yourself out. This obsession with Ayala has to end. The guy is a ****** pig and a B grade boxer. He fought nobody of any serious credentials. What is the fascination?
     
  4. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ayala goes down here by ud or late tko,
     
  5. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obel was a virtual unknown in the United States except for Hagler, but he was a tough customer for over a decade, who twice had Chong Pal Park's number, and the world class scalps of Obed, Gazo and Celestine on his resume. Like Hamsho, he had the misfortune of competing in a marquee division ruled by an ATG roadblock. (Unlike Hamsho though, he ultimately did nail down a secondary title at Park's expense.)

    Fully Obel could punch, had toughness, and would have Tony at a grievous disadvantage in height and reach. He was also a middleweight who beat light heavyweights like Jeff Lampkin, while Ayala was a fat 154 pounder. Tony would take a beating at range here before getting stopped late. Obel was a far more dangerous puncher than Maldonado, who decked Ayala with something considerably beyond a flash knockdown. In the Hagler rematch, Obel got up from perhaps the single hardest punch the Marvelous one ever landed, a leaping Pattersonesque "Hook from Hell" southpaw variation, the sort of shot the much more stationary Tony would be hard pressed to deliver. (Marv idolized Floyd, so perhaps it's no surprise he had this punch in his arsenal. Having a southpaw version of Liston's jab didn't hurt either.)
     
  6. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ayala ko 8 Obelmejias
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Obelmejias was a huge Middleweight. I am pretty confident if there was no Marvelous middleweight around in the early 80s, then Obelmejias would of had a little run with the World Championship, probably dethroning Minter, and ruling for 18/24 months.

    Hindsight says Ayala would not be able to cope with the pressure of the situation nor would he actually of been good enough, even without the flaws in his character.

    Without hindsight, Ayala would of walked into the bout a favourite with the bookies, but more than few Venezuelans would of walked of Vegas pretty rich.