Tony Bellew should agree to a rematch

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by rski, Mar 5, 2017.


  1. JohnH

    JohnH Member Full Member

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    Weird I read this morning he didn't require surgery and he'd been released from hospital, had a look after reading your post and news now states he HAS had surgery..
     
  2. KnowNothing

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    There is a lot of talk of a fight of two halves, pre/post injury. Tony did what he had to do. I don't want to diminish his achievement. He beat the man in front of him but it keeps getting repeated 'Haye was fit for the first 5 rounds, and wasn't good then...'.

    There was a foot injury rumour mid week, watch how Haye took an age to walk to the ring, Haye had limited footwork from the first bell, look how he bounced off the foot in the first exchange, he was swinging off balance from the beginning, from about the 4th he was dragging the right foot behind him.
     
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  3. JohnH

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    Haye was horrible in first two rounds, his balance was all over the place then (those wide left hooks he threw were shocking)
     
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  4. JohnH

    JohnH Member Full Member

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    You seem to forget that it's a foregone conclusion that Huggy Furry will outclass Parker (Uncle Pete said so, MUST be true)

    Huggy vs Belloo

    Imagine that freak show and the build up beforehand :yikes:
     
  5. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch was a strange one, technique wise never looked good but was very effective. He had good timing and punched proper, through the target. Just blended well, only guy that made him look average was Ward.
     
  6. Aint no stoppin

    Aint no stoppin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bellew has to realise that the type of money he made can only generated with a david haye rematch where he even would get more money cause now haye would have to agree to his terms with money and where the fight takes place.. And the rematch would do even bigger numbers then the first since it turned out to be a good fight. Bellew wont get half of the money with wilder or parker IMO but i can understand if he takes them on for a title. But if hes smart he takes the rematch end of this year depending how well haye heals up.
     
  7. Robson

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    But how long will it take to happen? He's aged, Haye will be 37 in Six Months. Ankle injuries are a ******* to heel and in many cases never do. Know one will know the extent for a while. After he's trained had a one or two warm-up bouts to test it he could be hitting 40. Age may have been responsible for it going in the first place.
    'Who's court is the ball in? ''The Ankle'' is in an odd way his saving grace he can use it to force a re-match.
    Ultimately I'm not sure he has the hunger to fight he could of returned to Boxing sooner than he did. The Money and interest in British Boxing's at a peak primarily in his weight division spiked his hunger. A Bellew fight was never supposed to happen was it? If it had gone on Hayes preferred route who would he have fought Saturday night? He could never of been taken seriously against Shannon Briggs. Dilian Whyte? Or would he be onto the next test against a Big-man as a build up for AJ, Wilder or Fury(I fear we'll never know). Which would have given him a match-up with either David Price or Hughie Fury
    He seemed coerced into this by Bellews wind-up he got what he believed was an easy big pay-day. IF Haye was injured in the build-up why didn't his camp protect him properly in the fight? And why hasn't he mentioned it since. David Haye's not known for keeping quiet about a pre-fight injury after a match why the change?. I'm intrigued into how Internet Forum Posters are more vocal & knowledgeable about it than hi.
     
  8. Robson

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    Bellew now could drum interest if he really wished with a number of fights he's done it before just the weights were not so glamorous.
    At 34 he says he's financially secure, he's wise. How many of us would love to retire rich, young, fit & healthy knowing your families secure. He knew which fight would allow him to do so with all still intact and targeted it. He's just seen what can happen if you keep on once the heart & time diminish you.
     
  9. Mc2

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    I think it comes down to this...hayes open to be exploited in exchange for money now. Hes pretty much tooeing the party line. He ll accept losing as long as he,s getting paid. Imo Hes about to do all the things he spent his whole career fighting against. Will be interested to see what happens next. But after saturday its time to retire.

    It couldnt have went any worse. Injury that will keep him out for a while. Loss to bellew. Looked finished before the injury became debilitating. Squashed the beef with bellew at the end. Tryed to appear like he didnt take training seriously...bragged about it and then came out looking like he hadnt. His coach didnt know what decision to make. In the corner after the bell went when haye got the bad injury...pretty sure he told haye bellew was now overreaching with his punches...like they had him. Haye could hardly walk...plus he,d been overreaching himself most of the fight. He now puts doubt weather he can complete a fight injury free or even be trusted not to come into a fight injured. It ll be the first thing people say if he does turn up on ppv again.

    He needs to retire. grow up and change his current lifestyle. I m not sure what problems hes got himself into. But where has the 30 plus million hes banked really gone. Theres no way anyones putting it all into a gym. How many houses does he own. How many businesses has he got. Cars. Yaughts. It actually looks like hes got nothing to show for it. Makes you think theres something going on behind the scenes. Understand hes had a divorce but he should still be well off. Hes came back been paid a very good sum of money. How come hes probably gonna end up skint again before long. Whos taking that money. Hes not continually investing in gyms surely. Hes got about 4 million. That should be plenty to live off comfortably for life plus can still do a lot of decent paid work in boxing to sustain him.

    My question is...

    Has he stayed drug free since retirement? Remember him turning up after not seeing him for a while...he actually looked ill. Nothing boxing related but just genuinely interested in whats really went on behind the scenes.

    Just to add i think matchroom and bellews team had a lot more inside information that they let on when they made the fight. Otherwise they wouldnt have put bellew in for it in the first place unless they knew he was finished. I dont think its been a we think and hope he might be finished. They knew. Tony bellew was petrified going in against adonis stevenson. And yet dances into the ring against david haye who was 16 stone of muscle and actually looked the business. Bellews never actually beat much in his career. Hes an underrated fighter. And he is a good fighter. But his best wins are fringe top level of the division. No ones really heard of makabu. Cleverly turned out to be fringe level.
     
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  10. On The Money

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    Was not a legit win for me, no punch caused the leg injury to Haye.
     
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  11. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Haye's fans are no different to Amir khan fan's. Every time they get exposed, there are excuses ....if's and would haves''

    Haye himself admitted that bellew won fair and square. His fans need to accept that, along with the fact that haye can no longer compete without injuries flaring up.

    The rematch is pointless, as there is a high likelihood that something will brake again before or during the fight leading to more excuses being made on behalf of this broken man.
     
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  12. lawslaw

    lawslaw Active Member Full Member

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    So much tosh in this post I cba to even start. Not remotely credible.

    So the question is, which of the recently *BOOTED* posters are you an alt for?
     
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  13. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    But Bellew wasn't supposed to last more than 2 or 3 rounds at the most.
     
  14. Mc2

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    I d be genuinely interested in your take on it. The post is tosh tbh. Started typing and ended up a mess without reading it back.

    I actually did get booted the other day. But think its been a case of mistaken identity ...the only posts i put up was congratulating the guys that called the fight correctly. Dont think i ve had a cross word with anyone on here the whole time i ve been on.
     
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  15. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    It's bbj (if I've got it right), a quality poster who doesn't cause beef with anyone on here even when people disagree with him, which I have a few times.

    I agreed with some of the post. Regarding Adonis Stevenson, Bellew was 3 stone lighter for that fight than he was last Saturday, bordering on looking like a POW. I agree with him that it would be a different fight at cruiser, but that's besides the point.
     
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