(In case anyone who might be interested missed this article on the Ali v. Galento thread ......) Legend has it that nobody gave Ali (Cassius Clay then) a chance against Liston the first time, but Tony Galento did, and his reasoning and break down of the match looks 100% spot on to me. Here's the article : "Cassius Will Whip Liston, Says Galento" (Milwaukee Journal, August 10, 1963) [url]http://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?...t+liston&hl=en[/url] enjoy. :good