Tony Harrison vs. Jermell De'Avante Charlo II & Jhack Tepora vs. Oscar Eduardo Escandón Berrío RBR

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Emphatic stoppages trump questionable decisions.
     
  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, I'm with you on this.

    Even though I had Harrison ahead 96-93 going into the 11th, there were a number of rounds, especially from the sixth through the eighth, where Charlo used the jab well and scored with hard single shots to the body during the first minute or so of each round.

    Harrison was content to walk Charlo down and not throw much during that period, but would then come on in the second half and start throwing combinations. But I can see some judges thinking that Harrison's closing rally as not being effective enough to completely overcome the early control that Charlo seemed to display during the first minute or so of those rounds...and I don't think that position is entirely unjustified.

    Had Harrison been a bit more consistent in a few of those frames, it would have helped his cause on those official cards-and may have dissuaded Charlo from staging the eleventh round charge that ultimately won him the fight.
     
  3. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Yo Pimp that busta was getting a boxing lesson and I only gave him 3 rounds because Tony had him stuck!!!!
    Anyways let’s see if Charlo is a Lion or a cub. Will he return the favor and do a rematch?
     
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  4. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Nah. A legit win is a legit win. Harrison decision wasn't questionable. It was a legit one. He jabbed Jermells ears off. It's not enough to try to steal a round with some power punches all the time. Jermell maybe landed more shots in the fight but Harrison dominated the majority of the fight with his world class jab. Last night Jermell scored a nice from behind stoppage but there is no doubt who is the better boxer: Tony Harrison. If Jermell has any pride, he gives Tony the third fight. Jermell was domianted twice and just made it 1-1 - JUST.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Nah charlo did more work landed the harder shots. He also was killing Harrison to the body which most people overlooked. He was up on my card and up on 2 judges cards.
     
  6. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    If we had a Ray Charles emoji I would insert it here:couch:
     
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  7. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Will he return the favor and offer a rematch or go from Lion to DUCK?
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    K? Really? God Damn you're annoying. For that, you're getting a reverse Jericho... you just got removed from the list.:deal:

    @IntentionalButt Hope you don't mind I retroactively edited him out. For being a pest lately, and we needed to make some room anyway.
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    no
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    So their were 3 people watching that fight that DKSAB scoring
     
  11. TheMotorCityCobra

    TheMotorCityCobra Active Member Full Member

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    As a fan of both dudes I just wanted to see a good fight. Harrison is one of the legit coolest dudes in boxing and in my opinion he’s probably the best pure boxer at 154, but he has trouble late in fights and Charlo is always in phenomenal shape. I had Tony up 96-93 at the time of the stoppage. Jermell was landing some heavy body shots that helped take Harrison's legs away late though. Tony even said at the presser that a couple of the body shots really hurt him and he had to put on his poker face. Gotta give Charlo credit for stopping him and getting his belt back. I do think Jermell has regressed technically since changing from Shields to James. He's become obsessed with loading up, and trying to get KO's. Assuming J-Rock takes care of business against Rosario, I will be looking forward to J-Rock-Charlo in June. Steven Edwards said the paperwork for that fight is already signed, sealed and delivered.
     
  12. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, that's nice. His is one opinion and one opinion only.
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    You...also had Harrison winning. :thinking: :lol:
     
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  14. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah...But my opinion isn't unassailable.

    I felt that there were a couple of rounds over and above the ones I have him (2, 4, and 8) that could have been scored to Charlo based on early round control. To my eye,. it wasn't wholesale domination, even if I awared Harrison the majority of rounds.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Eh, you also told me that you saw that pattern (of Charlo doing the most work in the first two minutes and Harrison not coming on until late) repeating most strongly in rounds 6-8 and that it was "less so" in the 9th and 10th. If you gave Charlo the 6th and 7th but acknowledge those as close swing rounds, and happen to also feel that of your Harrison rounds three of them (which you've identified as the second, fourth and eighth) could have gone Charlo's way - even if you canceled out by swapping all those rounds you would still wind up with Harrison a point up. To have Charlo up, you would need to "correct" only Harrison rounds into Charlo rounds...and do you really believe there's more budge room in 2/4/8 for Harrison than in 6 & 7 for Charlo? Besides, the criteria for giving Charlo those rounds (or any, in this fight) must be strictly based on volume thrown, as his accuracy (especially relative to Harrison's) was dire. There wasn't a round to my recollection in which Charlo landed more (or even the cleaner, more effective and damaging shots - outside when he dropped Harrison) - and I'm not the only person to harbor suspicion about those lopsided Compubox stats, because Harrison definitely threw more than half as many power shots.
     
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