Tony Pace - now 1-3

is he not known in wales then,being a welsh international,why dident non of the welsh promoters or trainers pick up on him,seems a shame:think

 

As has been mentioned somewhere here before, it doesn't matter if you have the talent of Sugar Ray, unless you sell tickets nobody's interested.

Most (and I do stress most, meaning not all) promoters/managers are very short term minded these days and just aren't willing to spend the time or money in actually building a fighter up, they want them to be selling straight away, and if you don't sell then you're going to find a lot of doors closed in your face.
It is becoming a common occurence on small hall shows (particularly in South Wales where Tony's from) that a boxer has to personally sell enough tickets to cover his own purse as well as his opponent's purse (and some profit margin too for the promoter) for a promoter to put you on his/her show.
When the average ticket price is around £30 a pop, that's a tough task if you don't have hundreds of mates from down the pub, or no great amateur exposure such as the Olympics or Commonwealth games for example.

There are PLENTY of young, talented and hungry boxers out there who jack the game in before they really get started because the opportunities are pretty much dead in the water for them for this very reason. Continuing their boxing career is just not a viable option for them financially, as it costs a pro boxer the best part of a grand each year to even be allowed to box (medical fees, brain scans, licence fees, etc), and when there are no fights - or money - coming in, this is obviously difficult to maintain.


As I've mentioned elsewhere, Tony Pace is being handled pretty badly in my opinion, taking short notice fights against very good opposition (though most of the pundits ringside did tip him to beat Gareth Piper beforehand), but unfortunately he isn't going to get the "right" fights unless he's a ticket seller.
Going in as the "opponent" is pretty much a career option to at least get fights and paydays, but regardless, I still think he's being handled a little too harshly.
He's a tough, tough warrior and really doesn't care who he fights, he's coming to give it his all. I hope he gets the right break.

 

I told him to come over to Kev Maree's and we'd try and do something for him but he just put thanks mate and thats it.... doesn't seem too clued up. I don't buy that he's a super talent but he's def decent enough to beat area level guys. I think his durability was the most impressive feature and though commendable durability doesn't win you fights.

 

Oh and obviously best of luck to the lad I hope he has fun

 

No he's not a super talent by any stretch Jeff, but he's a tough, strong guy with deceptively fast hands.
I don't think he's too clued up either, he lives right by one of the best boxing gym's in Wales with some of the best talent (both fighter and trainer-wise) yet he's gone to a place, I personally think, is detrimental to his progress as a boxer. Just my opinion.

 

if he had the talent of suger ray,id bloody take a loan out and sign him:deal


i completely understand the game mate,just saying its a shame really,even if he only got to english title level,better than being put in to loose:!:
but,the game has to have journeymen

 

:good I don't think Tony would qualify for this mate

 

**** me i need to use me brain now and again:rofl

 

always thought this about ryan clarke tbh

 

who?:huh

 

its up on boxrec that his fighting again on the 29th his opponent is 1-7 so he should get his first win

 

Carruthers is game and awkward. His style is very raw still and his skills are limited. Doesnt have potential to go far, he makes potential prospects earn their wage and give them a hard nights work. Good solid journeyman.

 

Read a few posts and there seems to be too many comments about him being a super talent or not. I don't think any sane person is suggesting he is the next Floyd but he certainly doesn't look like a 0-3 fighter. With a little bit of luck (the tunes in my head), he can get a good manager, good coach, some better match making and he could be a player domestically. When all is said and done, if you can say you were once the best at your weight in britain, then thats quite commendable!