Tony Thompson - Some of the top people that fight, in boxing, are still doing drugs!

if you're takin high blood pressure pills, you gotta ask why are you still boxing pro?

 

Always wondered why your posts get so buum rayped non stop.

 

but cris froome says you DKSAA.

 

Good post :good

 

:deal Must read for every boxing fan

 

They are outperforming their predecessors because 1. More people in the world today, i.e. more big/athletic/skilled people 2. better training 3. More penetration of markets i.e the people who are more naturally skilled at something are more likely to find or be found by their appropriate sport due to globalization forces, the increased interconnectedness of the world.

 

Yes, and they are doing PEDs, just as their predecessors did.
Better training, better drugs.

You reference markets, globalization forces, better exploitation human resources whatever. Yes.
But it would be absurd to suggest commercial global forces don't influence the development and necessary use of DRUGS too.

 

You caught him.

Just another troll exposed.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again, just PR (Puerto Rico) alone destroys the everyone is on it myth. Not a single baseball player or boxer has ever been caught using PED's from there. Now if you now anything about PR you would know that's an absolutely incredible fact seeing as how they put out world talent far beyond what their per capita statistics would normally indicate. Now, unless you believe "always financial crisis teetering PR" is always on the cutting edge of designer PED's then you have to believe there is simply a no cheating culture there, or maybe a stigma from shame too deep from being caught, to go there.

The facts here are so amazing that you could even take them apply it to the rest of sports. Because if PR is able to out perform other countries on a per capita basis, there cannot be as many PED's users as you believe coming from other places. Now, when it comes to DR (Dominican Republic) you have the exact opposite effect, statistics there say they the majority of them who participate in professional sports are probably on PED's.

But this is one fact alone, not too mention countless things that don't make sense like thinking everyone is oh so ready to be the guinea pig for designer drugs they have no idea what the long term effects are. Let alone, considering what the known side effects of the common PED's are. I suggest you give the gym a break, get some outside opinions other than your gym rat PED using, body building freak friends because your convincing yourself of a truth that doesn't even pass the first test, which is the question, "does this thinking make sense?"

 

"Well, we do what we can do..." lol

 

Here's an academic paper about AAS use in Puerto Rico athletes.

[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3436118/[/url]


Here's a very recent news item stating a PR BASEBALL player failed a drugs test (steroids) this year's Pan-Am Games.

[url]http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/17/4-pan-am-athletes-booted-for-doping[/url]


Also, Ricardo 'Ricky' Bones, one of the dozens of baseball players named in the Mitchell report, was caught with steroids, which he admitted to taking and buying from a doctor in his native Puerto Rico.

[url]http://www.realclearsports.com/blognetwork/marlins_today/2007/12/mitchell-report-findings-the-ricky-bones-incident.html[/url]


This is just from a quick and simple google search. I find it hard to believe that "not a single PR boxer or baseball player" has been caught.
Even if that was true, it doesn't prove much.

Boxing doesn't even have much proper testing.

People take drugs all the time. Chemical medicine is part of modern life. Most people are not so concerned about side effects to prevent them taking pills and injections. In fact, I've never heard of someone who hasn't taken pills and injections, apart from maybe some crazy religious cult nuts. PEDs are quite simple drugs, tried and tested by millions over decades and decades. "Designer" PEDs are just variations of the same thing, changed slightly to fool testers. These aren't being cooked up by kids in the ghetto, they are developed by professionals for professionals. All drugs have potential side effects, but people take them all the time.

 

So you found a total of two professional athletes who used, and still none in boxing, and you still believe this does not knock your argument at all?? There's no way you cannot be aware of PR's presence in baseball and boxing, are you simply under the assumption that PR's or PR is just vastly more adept at getting away with PED usage, how can this ridiculously low "pop" rate not affect you for a country you know has a ridiculously high per capita involvement rate? Explain, I'm sure you'll just come back with "they're not getting caught"

By the way, I do think you can benefit form PED's, stop using them, and have still gained some benefits. Many PEDs help you with concentration, they help you practice longer, and recover. Which means they will improve what you learn about the sport you're competing in by way of that focus, and extra hours. So, yes, I do believe athletes can use at the high school collegiate level, stop using, and still have gained a great deal. I am talking about the professional level here, and there is something to say about PR's high presence and almost non existence test failure rate. No matter how you try to ignore it with "they're just not getting caught" or try to spin it upcoming.

 

I get your point.

Obviously its not that simple. Have you notice how some boxing fans see old greats much faster, stronger and skillful than those who fight today. With these basis its almost impossible to get this message through..

 

And this. Spot-on.

 

Have you guys ever thought how these fighters can take so many hard punches to the head and end up fine? or they get hit so hard and don't even get knocked down?