Tony Tucker V Ron Lyle ?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Lyle of the Ali title fight goes up against Tucker of the Douglas ft ?
    Lyle doing pretty well against Muhammad till getting stopped.
    Tucker losing to Buster till coming back .
    So who takes it .15 round s ?
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    50/50 imo.
     
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  3. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    I think Tucker is too durable, mobile and rangy to get knocked out by Lyle. Therefore a UD or late TKO for Tucker is the most plausible for me.
     
  4. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lyle was by far the harder hitter of the two, but Tucker was pretty good boxer and could win this by decision.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

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    This is a likely outcome i think, i lean more toward a decision.
     
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  6. Big Ukrainian

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    Tucker definitely wouldn'tbe able to stop Lyle. His power was sligtly above average at best. His KO% is the most deceiving in boxing history. Even Vitali Klitschko, whose KO% is incredibly deceiving too, hit harder than Tucker IMO.
     
  7. GOAT Primo Carnera

    GOAT Primo Carnera Member of the PC Fan Club Full Member

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    Most of the time, if the boxers didn´t feed on total tomato cans, a KO% has some truth in it. It should be kept in mind that a late brakedown KO/TKO can occur, even if the boxers doesn´t carry a lot of power. So the question about KO% should be if there´s a correlation with power in general. Maybe its worth looking at KO/TKO < round 6.

    Tuckers KO-ratio until he faced Tyson (I don´t think he was on the same level after that layoff) is 86%, most of them before 6 rounds. So I would say his power was above avarage and good in general.

    Lyle did got stopped by Ali late, but made it through 10/12 against Young two times. I don´t know, either UD or late TKO.
     
  8. Big Ukrainian

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    His opposition before Douglas was atrocious. Ali would probably have 100% KO ratio against that type of opponents (including beyond shot Jimmy Young). His 2 best opponents were James Broad and Danny Sutton, and Tucker wasn't able to stop either of them. Broad was already knocked out cold by Tim Witherspoon in 2 rounds before he faced Tucker, and Sutton was well known for his glass jaw - he was knocked out in 6 of his 7 losses (before Tucker fight). Hell, Tucker even failed to stop Eddie Richardson in the first fight.
     
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  9. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    I doubt a 75 Ali would. Later Ali was just featherfisted, as well as didn´t fight offensive.
    But you may be right, Tuckers opponents were not top notch. But not beeing top notch doesn´t mean they were defensively inept. Other boxers went through early opposition too, accomplishing alot less than 86% KO-ratio.
     
  10. Fergy

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    I don't see Tucker stopping Lyle ,not unless he suddenly falls apart like Douglas. And I believe Tucker was extremely durable back then .So it's a win for TT ,but Lyle has his fair share of rounds .
     
  11. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Tucker is not stopping lyle even with a shot gun
     
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  12. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    And even a decision win for him is very debatable. 50/50
     
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  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Tucker had good power. His problem was fragile hands. He's too good a boxer, with too many tools, for Lyle. I wouldn't take too much from his losing effort against a very shopworn Ali.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    I'd say Tucker decisions him or perhaps as a second opinion stop him late. Lyle is competitive though and puts up a stern test
     
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  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Lyle UD or stops him.
    Tucker is overrated on here.
     
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