Tony Weeks Should Have Disqualified Wlad For Excessive Holding

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  1. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    what he does is illegal and against the rules. he never gives a fighter a chance to hit him because he holds them when they land or after a flurry of punches that miss, he grabs you. Other occasions, wlad hits you then he grabs you to prevent you from hitting him back.
     
  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    So what do you when someone leaps at you trying to clinch? You step back and uppercut those fools. He usually clinches when someone is firing shots at him, which is a sound stragety when he tries finding an arm and clinching you, you must hit him. But Pulev was well in range to do so, but he wasnt quick enough. Thats the problem, there arent many fighters quick enough to exploit that clinch.
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    He should get warnings at least with points deducted. Tell me honestly now Do you think any referee that DQ'd Wlad in Germany would get out alive???? Same way with Floyd in Vegas
     
  4. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I don't think that was disqualification worthy (Povetkin fight was), maybe a warning or two, Pulev himself was doing more fouling than Wlad in that fight anyway.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Wlad was justified holding Povetkin as much as he did, Povetkin came running in like a ****** flailing his arms around , so what do you do you jab and grab him, and repeat as many times as he does it.
    Alexander didn't have a game plan nor did Pulev, they can't outbox him, they can't get to him, he frustrates them and overwhelms them, so they resort to bumrushing him and they get KTFO or dropped repeatedly.
    If they don't like it try a different strategy that'll work, but the problem is none will, Wlad is unbeatable.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Weeks should've, but not Pabon?

    The clinching was a million times worse on 10-5-13.
     
  7. skier47

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    So did Ali. The boxing ruling class allowed this technique to go unpunished as Ali was a cultural phenom as well as an athletic marvel. Money talks so the money men of boxing let him get away with grabbing shorter opponents and bending them over to neutralize their offense and exhaust them. Don't blame the tall, talented athletic modern day marvel Wlad Klitschko for just following in Ali's footsteps.
     
  8. newby johnson

    newby johnson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Refs really oughtta punish Wlad for that kinda stuff.
     
  9. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    The clinching is one thing, but the throwing and shoving he does after a punch/in the clinch should be penalized.
     
  10. TSoprano

    TSoprano Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shut up :patsch

    Pulev was the more dirty fighter Saturday. He should have been warned more against Povetkin and eventually DQ'd if he continued to grab and clinch. But nothing wrong in this fight...
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    So Pulev do the same, when Wlad hit him, he clinches. He attack, he clinches.
    Stop crying about Povetkin, cause Povetkin initiate all. He was trying to spear Wlad all night, was playing low all night and was charging to Wladimir, who should do what? He should going backward and get into Povetkin range, that was the plan from Povetkin, but guess what Wladimir dont care about ***** who know nothing about boxing. Povetkin refuse to play outside, Klitschko refuse to play inside and refuse to move from center of the ring, so that was the match.
    Watch Vitali - Lennox, Vitali is not a guy who goes into clinches but in that match there was a lot of clinches, just because they was both aggressive and both was going forwards.
    Its f***** normal. And NO, no one will DQ Wlad or whatever guy who is doing that. Just f**** accept it that clinches is part from boxing and its not invented by Wlad K.
    I agree the ref was a sh** with Povetkin but he should penalized Povetkin for going low as well, not only Wladimir.
    And the ref with Pulev should penalized Pulev for all rabbit shot he throw.
    But you know what? Thats a Wlad answer to all s**** who hate him :
    https://vine.co/v/O56KvUBLuEL
    KTFO !!!
     
  12. Robney

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    Seriously, in that bout? We might just have reached the point where both might have been in for a point deduction but Pulev was already flat on his back, so that's a mute point.

    If every single HW fight (just imagine the rest of the divisions) in history had been reffed completely following the rules then Ali would never have been "the greatest", Lennox would have been DQ'd even in the Grant fight, Holyfield would have had a very tough career etc... etc.

    DQ my ass! :-(
     
  13. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought the holding was not excessive in the Pulev fight, thanks to Pulev's upright stance. In the Povetking fight Wlad should have been deducted points at the very least and if he continued he should have been DQ'd.
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Yes, but if you were being fair and playing by the rules then you'd have to DQ fighters that swing wide and land on their opponents' back routinely in a fight too. Or fighters that push off when fighting on the inside. Or fighters after the first or second clash of heads. Or fighters who land on the belt line in exchanges.

    I agree some of what Wladimir always does is against the rules to some extent, but as an above poster said; don't be naive.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    The holding in the Pulev fight was not excessive unlike in the Povetkin fight. He definitely should have been penalized for it and received at least a couple of point deductions and more had he continued with those tactics against Povetkin.

    Too many referees these days seem to not want to penalize excessive holding. It's allowed holding to become more pervasive in boxing which is a shame as it can ruin a fight and alter the outcome of fights.