Tony Zale vs the MW of the last 30 yrs

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  1. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Wheres ur concrete proof??
    Why didnt Marciano fight Valdez Satterfield Baker or Jackson??? I guess because they weren't washed up like the other black men he fought
     
  2. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    S, why are you so obsessed about RACE to the point that it becomes tiresome.? Who the hell are you to lambast a brave, honest fighter like Tony Zale, who served his country for 4 years,
    calling him [in essence] a coward because he did not fight some black fighters you now wish he had 70 years later. Why haven't you applied the same standards to a Ray Robinson who COULD have but NEVER gave a money bout to the likes of Charley Burley, Holman Williams, Bert Lytell, Eddie Booker, all who were tons better than SRR many opponents???? S, your repeated silence to my question speaks of your lack of proper response...
    At least Tony Zale served honorably 4 prime years of his boxing career, serving his country. Robinson got out of the service after a few short months and resumed his lucrative career MAKING the same money YOU in your holiness deny Tony Zale...Why
    not hold SRR to the same standards you hold Tony Zale to.???
    I hate hypocrisy in any form, but double standards in boxing is
    sheer excrement...:hi:
     
  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Burt this guy only sees Wat he wants to c.
    His double standard racist act is old and played out. Must b some kinda mental issue who knows he's like a child who doesn't get his way so he just keeps playing the same tune while wrecking other people's posts for his own racist agenda
     
  4. Cmoyle

    Cmoyle Active Member Full Member

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    "Shortly after Charles whipped Christoforidis in 1942, Tony Zale, the middleweight champion, entered the navy and didn't fight again for four years. So getting a shot at the middleweight title was out."
    'A Boxing Life. Ezzard Charles' by Bill Dettloff.

    Charles was no longer a middleweight by the time Zale got out of the service.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Because Marciano only defended his title against men who were rated number 1 in the division except ****ell. We're any of those men you listed rated number 1 outside of Valdes? I'll give you Valdes

    Also I'm confused. You call Archie Moore washed up yet he went 4-0 against satterfield baker and Valdes. If satterfield baker and Valdes weren't good enough to beat a washed up old black man, why should they be good enough for Marciano?

    Marciano beat the best of his era never ducked no one and never drew the color line . You can't ask for more than that
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Robinson fought a prime hall of fame black fighter kid Gavilán..twice. Gavilán was the best WW of the era. Robinson is proven
     
  7. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Hey don't talk like that about your hero! I'm your hero

    Your problem is you are old stubborn and close minded. Open up your eyes and stop worshipping white champions with weak resumes who refused to fight black men
     
  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Just because Moore beat them doesn't mean Marciano would. We all know styles make fights or maybe u don't know.
     
  9. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True ru. This true "racist" [Lord how I hate that phony term]will NEVER respond to my question about the great Ray Robinson
    NEVER ever giving a money bout to some members of the "Murderers Row " contingent...Robby certainly could have but
    REFUSED to fight some of these guys especially when Robinson lost NO TIME in the service like Tony Zale did...Why doesn't
    the avowed critic of Tony Zale Suzy Q answer my query ???
    His silence is deafening...cheers ru. If some of us do not defend the truth, who will ???
     
  10. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    My hero is my son who is a United States Marine. Don't cross a line and start being an a#shole.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Moore didn't just beat those men he dominated them ..4-0 with 2 knockouts against those men

    How do you explain Moore achieving that if he was washed up? Especially if you believe those fighters posed a threat against an all time great champion?

    Why did Moore have such a style advantage against those men but such a disadvantage vs Marciano?
     
  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Where r all the black murderers row on Robinsons record. Why did Robinson openly admitt he wanted no part of Burley??
     
  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I answered you burt. Robinson fought kid Gavilán

    What black fighter did Tony zale ever fight? Ever beat?
     
  14. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Robinson was a welterweight weighing 142lb from 1940-1947

    He fought most of the best black welterweights out there Gavilán Armstrong Bell Wilson

    Your criticizing him for not fighting black men out of his division?
     
  15. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Again styles make fights why was Rocky afraid to fight prime black fighters??