too many ATGs?

So by this logic, we need to see the greatness. So theres not many people at all alive on the planet today that can call Sam Langford, Harry Greb and many other ancient boxers, great? And call them great and say that we cannot mention the names of these brilliant, superb fighters that we can all see, in the same sentence as these greats.

I completely, 100% agree

 

Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes.

 

I suspect no one is going to be an all-time great, the closest to the term probably will be Ali. But like many, I only just find a place in my top 10 finest fighters ever for the Louisville Lip.

But as mentioned, there are... or rather WERE Great fighters IMO. I just think there should be only be 30 or so, that can be changed as time goes on, so it is naive to suggest that any of them will be all-time Greats.

Both Toney and Pedroza were brilliant fighters, I too have Pedroza as a top 10 Featherweight and for a short period in the mid 90's I thought Toney was the best fighter on the planet.

 

As I said; Greatness is an intangible with no set formula, but you will know it when you see it. And all the evidence available to me, tells me both Langford and Greb are for the moment two of boxing's great fighters.

Neither of them are ancient either, both fought in a modern era of the sport IMO.