Too many belts, too many weight classes!

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Oct 27, 2020.


  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Posting this here because in an historical context, I think this is still a worthwhile discussion and a theme that frequently surfaces in the Classic.

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  2. Unforgiven

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    I'd like to see a return to 8 weight classes : Fly, Bantam, Feather, Light, Welter, Middle, Light-Heavy and Heavy.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yep, 1 belt for each of the 'original eight' (which doesn't make sense).
     
  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think it's better just to call them the cardinal weight classes.

    I think the extra weight classes wouldn't be nearly as bad if there were only 1, or even 2 champions per weight class, with a focus on unifying claims.

    Or we could go back to the original 4

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    Anything above is heavyweight.
     
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  5. Unforgiven

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    The amount of 'world title' belts per division, and now a whole set of 'sub-world title' belts, is a joke.
     
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  6. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Too many belts, alphabet soup titles. The original weight classes need to return, 1 champion a piece.
     
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  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don’t mind the weight classes as such, in fact it could be kind of fun If there was only one belt per division as there’s the potential for more belt holders fighting each other.
     
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  8. Amos-san

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    IMO: 8-10 divisions and two championship belts.
     
  9. sweetsci

    sweetsci Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes! My response, before I saw this post, was, "Then why do we give them honor and credence if we dislike them so much?" We call Mike Tyson the youngest heavyweight champ ever. We recognize Michael Bentt and Charles Martin (nothing against them personally) as former champions. We don't recognize George Foreman and Michael Spinks as champions despite the fact that they were active and didn't lose, because they were "stripped" by the dumb bunnies at the organizations.

    In the seventies and eighties the idea of two belts was considered ridiculous. Now that we've got... I don't even know how many... people are like, "Let's bring it back to two." No. One "World Champion" is enough. Let's make being a contender or regional champion great again.

    I do think we need to go beyond the "original 8" divisions. Not as far as it's gone, but do I think some of the extra divisions are necessary.
     
  10. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can maybe go with the extra weight classes, especially if it means fighters are not fighting in a division that’s too big for them.
    However the splintered alphabet titles have done my head in from day one.
    They’ve gave a false impression of numerous fighters standings and achievements in the game for decades now.
    I’d be ecstatic if we were to get back to one champion per division, I don’t ever envisage it happening though, too much money to be made.
     
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  11. McGrain

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    I've no problem with the number of divisions.

    The number of belts is the problem IMO.

    Will put this on later Rummy.
     
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  12. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    2 champions at each weight division would be nice.
     
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  13. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep boxing needs to be run by one man like a Dana White figure. Fewer divisions and fewer belts.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    I can understand the need for a cruiser division at 190 or 200, and maybe for the fans of the tiny ones, they can put a division at 105 or whatever, but I can't stand all the other "in between" divisions.
    I mean, to have a division at 130, when there's already great divisions at 126 and 135, is ridiculous.
    Same with 115,122, etc.
     
  15. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    The trouble with just seeing the man who beat the man, is there is nothing to stop the champion ducking legit top challengers.

    We really need a sensible middleground between "stripped because two different orgs had different manditories who aren't even top 10", and champion being able to avoid legit stand out contenders.
     
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