Top 10 Asian Boxers Today!

Filipino ARE Pacific Islanders as much as anything. The confusion lies that many think Filipino's ethnic make up is homogeneous. It is not. At its base, they are Indo - Malay. Our closest ethnic relatives are Indonesians and Malaysians. Second are the South East Asian like Laos, Vietnam and such. But there is a strong Pacific Islander influence very early in its history. There is also some influence of Chinese and American culture.

All in all, it is a modern mutt country - like USA, most of the Carribbean and Latin America, Middle East and such.

It's language is structurally, grammatically is also Indo-Malay based. Filipinos would have easier understanding Indonesian than they will a Spanish person. Spanish language influence is pretty much just a portion of the vocabulary - not structure or grammar. But that too is changing since English vocabulary is also penetrating the culture (like most of the world, but more so in the Philippines).

On topic --

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I honestly have no clue how Americans classify these things -- but it sounds similar to me, as I always hear the term 'African American', and that seems like the same sort of tag as 'British Asian', where the ethnicity is mixed with the nationality into a single phrase. They're both African and American, just as Khan is both British and Asian.

 

It's funny how the words, although pronounced like in Spanish, are not spelled like in Spanish:

Bintana - Window (Ventana)
Kubyertos -utensils (Cubiertos)
Sibuyas -Onions (Cebolla)
Kabayo -Horse (Caballo)
Bapor -Ship (Barco)
Sabon -Soap (Javon)

Phiippines - (Filipinas)

Going back to the subject at hand, Pacquiao should be #1 because Philippines is considered Asia by textbook. It does not matter what "some" people think.

 

LOL. Alot of people fail to realize that Filipinos by definition are considered Hispanic.

Culturally, Hispanic.
Geographically, Asian.

 

I would say they are a mix of hispanic and asain - with their genes being predominantly asain - imo.

 

That is patently FALSE.
There is little 'Hispanic' about Filipinos. Hispanic is a general term use to cover the variety of ethnicity that was largley created by the European colonizing the Carribbean and Latin America. Hispanics is a mix of European caucasians, African blacks and native Americans.

While there are native blacks in the Philippines, this is not the same African Blacks that help built the Americas. Ethnically, the Filipino blacks are more homogeneous while the African Blacks that came in the Americas, mostly via slavery, consist of several ethnic groups from Western and sub Saharan Africa.

The term Hispanic is purely for the Americas geographically. It is not used for people in other parts of the world with Spanish influence like the Philippines.

Third, you might be using it because of the language similarity, but as I pointed out this is strictly a VOCABULARY influence and not structure or grammar wise. The foundation strongly remains Indo-Malay.

 

Indonesian is considered Asian also, not pacific islander, which is still no more Pacific islander than Japanese. Sure, it's islands in the Pacific, but that's about it. When someone says Pacific Islander, they mean Polynesian, i.e., Hawaiian, Fijian, Samoan, Tongan, Maori, Rapanuian, Guamanian, etc.

 

Assuming that ALL black fighters in America are from African. Their ethnic background is African but their Nationality is American. They're African-American get it?

 

Why because you say so? He's English. He's an Englishman of Pakistani descent. Why does he refer to the England football team as 'we' if he's Pakistani?
Don't confuse nationality and ethnicity.
And furthermore, would we discussing him on this forum had he been born in Pakistan?
Probably not.

 

No he isn't.

 

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Nail on the head.
And for the record I consider Mackin Irish and Gavin English.
The difference being that Macklin has pledged his allegiance to Ireland, and I don't think anybody else has the right to dispute what he determines his his own national identity to be.

 

Personally I think you have to consider BOTH nationality and ethnicity when 'classifying' a person in this manner. The environment as well as your roots define you as a person...both nature and nurture. The very name 'Khan' is a symbol of his roots, and one that cannot be ignored. I consider him both British and Pakistani (hence, a 'British Asian'), and I don't see why he cannot be both. I mean you pretty much said it yourself: 'He's an Englishman of Pakistani descent'.

 

I certainly dont need to be lectured on the differentiation between the concepts of nationality, citizenship and ethnicity.

The point I am making is that if you are going to make a pound for pound list and then use all three concepts as the criteria for inclusion then you are going to be on shakey ground.

If I made a European Top 10 and included Kelly Pavlik would that sound equitable? or what about Floyd Mayweather in the current African Top 10??