Top 10 ATG at Heavyweight

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  1. rinsj

    rinsj Active Member Full Member

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    I believe the best to do this type of list is by decade with 1 maybe 2 fighters per:

    2010-present
    Wladimir Klitschko

    2000-09
    Wladimir Klitchko / Vitali Klitchko

    1990-99
    Lennox Lewis

    1980-89
    Larry Holmes / Mike Tyson

    1970-79
    Muhammad Ali

    1960-69
    Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali)

    1950-59
    Rocky Marciano

    1940-49
    Joe Louis

    1930-39
    Joe Louis

    1920-29
    Jack Dempsey

    1910-19
    Jack Johnson

    1900-09
    James J. Jeffries

    1890-99
    James J. Corbett

    1880-89
    John L. Sullivan
     
  2. Ipay4leavingNot

    Ipay4leavingNot Active Member Full Member

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    ^Jeffreies waas the best of 1890-90, jeffries beat corbett 2 times I believe.
    1900-09 was when johnson was the best in boxing.
    1910-1919, johnson was largely washed up during the 2nd half of this period he became old and overweight.
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    My top ten , in no order since styles make fights ...

    Ali
    Louis
    Lewis
    Tyson
    Holmes
    Holyfield
    Frazier
    Vitali
    Liston
    Johnson


    Very tempted to put the Bowe that defeated Holyfield the first time but his prime was so short ...
     
  4. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Chronological order:

    Jack Johnson
    Jack Dempsey
    Gene Tunney
    Joe Louis
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Rocky Marciano #1 (A bit subjective)
    Sonny Liston
    Muhammad Ali
    George Foreman
    Larry Holmes
    Mike Tyson
    Evander Holyfield
    Lennox Lewis
    Vitali Klitschko
    Wladimir Klitschko

    Bold - most likely top 10 ATG.
     
  5. Andrei00

    Andrei00 Active Member Full Member

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    Wow, I can dig Marciano at #1, but no Frazier?
     
  6. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    I try to stay away from these lists as much as I can but I often get pulled in with the Heavyweights.

    Well, here goes. Keep in mind my list is mostly based off of who beats who in a prime vs. prime situation.

    1. Ali- He beat HW Champs Patterson x2, Liston x2, Terrell (WBA), Ellis (WBA), Frazier, Foreman, and L. Spinks

    2. Holmes- He beat HW Champs Ali, Norton (WBC), Weaver (WBA), Witherspoon (WBA and WBC), Smith x2 (WBA), and Berbick (WBC). The 1st loss to M. Spinks was questionable. The 2nd loss to M. Spinks was a robbery.

    3. Holyfield- after going 18-0 (14) overall, 6-0 (5) in World Title Fights, and 3-0 (2) vs. Hall of Famers at CW he moved up to HW. He beat HW Champs Thomas (WBC), Dokes (WBA), Douglas, Foreman, Holmes, Bowe, Moorer, Mercer (WBO), Tyson x2, Ruiz (WBA), and Rahman. He drew with Lewis and was robbed vs. Valuev (WBA). He beat more Lineal HW Champs than anybody... 7.

    4. Foreman- He beat HW Champs Frazier, Norton (WBC), and Moorer. He could take it and he could give it... better than most.

    5. Tyson- He beat HW Champs Berbick (WBC), Smith (WBA), Tucker (IBF), Thomas (WBC), Holmes, M. Spinks, Tubbs (WBA), Bruno x2 (WBC), and Seldon (WBA). He was faster and punched harder than most.

    6. Lewis- He was stopped twice but he also beat those two fighters. At his best he was almost impossible to beat. He beat HW Champs Weaver (WBA), Tucker (IBF), McCall (WBC), Bruno (WBC), Botha (IBF), Morrison (WBO), Mercer (WBO), Akinwande (WBO), Holyfield, Rahman, Tyson, Briggs, and V. Klitschko.

    7. V. Klitschko- He has the right combination of size and skill. He's durable, he's huge, he's never been down, he has rarely lost a round.

    8. W. Klitschko- He may be a better overall fighter than his brother but he isn't as durable.

    9. Louis- He beat HW Champs Schmeling, Sharkey, Carnera, Baer, Braddock, and Walcott x2... 2nd behind Holyfield on the most Lineal HW Champs defeated list, 6.

    10. Marciano- He's small but we never saw him beat so it's hard to imagine. He went 6-0 (5) Hall of Famers.

    11. Frazier- At his best it's hard to imagine many beating him.

    Honorable mention-

    Bowe, Charles, Walcott, Johnson, Liston, Tunney, Dempsey, Norton, Patterson, Witherspoon, and Wills among others.
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    In no order
    Ali
    Johnson
    Louis
    Dempsey
    Holmes
    Liston
    Lewis
    Foreman
    Marciano
    Holyfield/Frazier
     
  8. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow this is unreal someone else as well as me has Rocky at no.1!?? Haha this is the greatest day of my boxing career!!:happy:happy:good:good. Good lad!!?? There is man who knows what he's talkin about! :yep
     
  9. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Double wow!! :admin someone who can dig Marciano being at no.1 aswell!!?? Holy cow I thought I was the only one on the planet!? :thumbsup cheers dudes
     
  10. Ipay4leavingNot

    Ipay4leavingNot Active Member Full Member

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    To me Marciano at #1 is 10 times more justified than larry holmes at number 2. Larry got beat up by old men, lhw, small hws and just baout everyone, ducked the best fighter and true champions and never actually became lineal champ because he never won the wbc which was for all functional purpose the lineal title. He fought ali after he gave it up.
     
  11. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Joe Louis
    2. Lennox Lewis
    3. Jack Johnson
    4. Muhammed Ali
    5. Wladimir Klitschko
    6. Larry Holmes
    7. Holyfield
    8. George Foreman
    9. Mike Tyson
    10. Vitali Klitschko
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    wow... guys calling themselves "stallion" and "rockysplitnose" calling Marciano #1... shocker.
     
  13. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    My bad, I've forgotten him. Yes, Frazier is on the list as well.

    I guess that everyone has their own opinion. I've said that it was a little bit subjective having Rocky as #1 but there's nothing wrong with it.
     
  14. Goyourownway

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    Because he actually had a career as a heavyweight? Spinks is greater than Holmes, but his career following the first Holmes fight was all smokes and mirrors. He got a gift in the rematch and then avoided genuine contenders until cashing in with the Tyson fight.



    A very underrated fighter (I consider him the best of the 80's) but not anything close to being a great heavyweight.
     
  15. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dis mins det u agri wiz mi on Spinks ranking haier dan Leonard P4P ?