Top 10 ATG List 168 Super Middleweights (Updated Feb 2020)

I had stopped watching by the time he came along, but my younger brother got into WWF so I did see some of his fights. I never watched the WCW, so dont know any of those guys.

Never heard of him before. I do remember the Million Dollar Man though. Him and his bodyguard Virgil, lol
I liked Mr Perfect, Macho Man, Rick Rude, Hogan and the Hart Foundation.

I'm going to have to watch some old WWF fights now

 

Thank you. It's nice to be back

 

Pretty good, I'd switch #1 and #2 and move Jones to #3.

 

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Andre Ward
3. Roy Jones Jr
4. Chris Eubank
5. Carl Froch
6. Mikel Kessler
7. Nigel Benn
8. Steve Collins
9. Chong-Pal Park
10. Sven Ottke

 

By resume, Calzaghe is clearly number at SMW.

By the admittedly more subjective eye-test, h2h, I think Roy is probably number 1.

 

Pretty fair post right here. Where would Ottke rank though? Between Ottke and Joe C, how do their resumes compare (removing the controversy and only going by win/loss).

 

Roy is no. 1 by a country mile

 

#10. Chong Pal Park
#9. Nigel Benn
#8. Chris Eubank Sr
#7. Sven Ottke.
#6. Mikkel Kessler
#5. Carl Froch
#4. James Toney
#3. Roy Jones Jr
#2. Andre Ward
#1. Joe Calzhage

I'm much more familiar with this lot than I am the other ******* divisions. Everyone loves the SMWs.

 

By resume, I'd put it ...

Calzaghe
Roy
Ward
Ottke


By h2h (speculative, I know)...

Roy
Calzaghe
Toney
Ward

 

Eubank wasn't number 1 in this list


Victor Cordoba*
Michael Nunn
Chris Eubank
Iran Barkley
Mauro Galvano
Nigel Benn
Darrin Van Horn
Lindell Holmes
Tony Thornton
Merqui Sosa

Or this list

Michael Nunn*
Iran Barkley
Chris Eubank
Victor Cordoba
Nigel Benn
Tim Littles
Darrin Van Horn
Tony Thornton
Frankie Liles
Frank Nicotra

Or this list

James Toney
Michael Nunn*
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
Tim Littles
Darrin Van Horn
Frankie Liles
Tony Thornton
Antoine Byrd
Vincenzo Nardiello

Or this list

Roy Jones Jr.
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
Frankie Liles*
Vinny Pazienza
Tim Littles
Michael Nunn
Ray Close
Graciano Rocchigiani
Antoine Byrd

So why would he be number 1 in a list of everyone who ever competed in the division?

 

I've watched the Malinga fight. Real poor performance. Reid's claim to fame is he lost a close fight to Calzaghe

I haven't watched that fight. I'm told he injured his shoulder cuff during that fight.

I have to disagree with this. Vanderpool had skills, but his defense needed work. He also could be a bit lazy as in his fight with Glen Johnson.
I think he would of given Ottke a tough fight. That is the same Ottke who barely eeked out a win against Johnson.

I watched the Mendoza fight. I was under the impression that Mendoza should of got the win and that it was time for Lacy to retire. He looked really over the hill in that fight.

I got to disagree with your view on Sheika, who turned that fight into a clinch fest. No fighter deserves to win a fight using such tactics

 

He was cool though. I watched a few of his fights, but from that era I liked Kurt Angle (aka Koba) the most.

Im going to have to watch some Bret Hart fights. I think my favourite was Bret Hart vs Macho Man

 

No doubt

 

Are you sure you’re not confusing the WWF with the WCW?

The Undertaker didn’t appear in the WWF until 1990.

I hated Doink. He was a terrible addition to the company.