Top 10 ATG List 168 Super middleweights

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  1. eltirado

    eltirado Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. Andre Ward. G.O.A.T @168
    2. Roy Jones Jr. Dominating 44-0 ATG James Toney
    3. Carl Froch. Fought & Beat every man he faced faced except Andre Ward
    4. Joe Calzaghe. Impressive 21 WBO Title defenses reign 1998-2007
    5. Sven Ottke. Impressive 21 IBF Title defenses reign 1998-2004
    6. Steve Collins. Iron Chin, bigger heart, defeated Benn & Eubank
    7. Chong-Pal Park. First dominant champion at 168, 1984-1988
    8. Nigel Benn. Big heart, loss and draw with Eubank, hurting G Man
    9. Chris Eubank. 1-0-1 on paper with Benn, older times kept on fighting
    10. James Toney. Iran Barkely win & taking RJ beatdown like a man
     
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  2. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Calzaghe #1 for me followed by Andre Ward.

    Roy was like superman in the ring and H2H no doubt beats them all, but his body of work at SMW was so thin.....
     
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    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't read...no Kessler...

    True list.

    Joe calzaghe #1 there is no blueprint.
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    Ward #2
    Kessler #3
    Roids #4
    Froch #5
    Eubank #6
    Benn #7
    Collins #8
    Ottke #9
    Lacy #10

    Calzaghe with 3 scalps on the list baby.:bananaride
     
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  4. eltirado

    eltirado Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Any boxer who wants to enter Top 10 ATG lists in the UK needs to get beat up by their top Champ...
     
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    george14 New Member Full Member

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    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's a sign of a man that dksab
     
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  7. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No chance.

    RJJ is #1
     
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  8. AdamT

    AdamT Member Full Member

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    If we are talking quality of fighter I would say RJJ number 1

    However, he did not do enough at the weight to be ahead of Ward and Calzaghe

    I pick Ward as 1 and Joe as a close second

    Joe had a lot of defences, but he had a lot padding in his record early on. A great fighter though and certainly finished his career very strongly

    I think I would pick Joe to outwork Ward to a decision
     
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    LoadedGlove Member Full Member

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    Lacey in there but no Chong Pal Park. Controversial.
     
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  10. eltirado

    eltirado Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At one point I had RJJ #1, then Andre Ward taught us that he always finds a way to win. A quality RJJ lacks, Ward is the proof there is nothing such as Fate/Bad Luck

    Ward Gold vs RJJ Silver

    If Ward was in Seoul 1988 he would have found a way to win the Gold Medal because he is the definition of perfection.
     
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  11. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Ward
    2. Joe Calzaghe
    3. RJJ -- the best ever at 168 in pretty much every category but resume/accoldes at 168, though I do think Ward has a good shot to beat him H2H, one of the only fighters id ever favor over Jones.
    4. Kessler and Froch tied at 4
    5. Eubank
    6. Collins
    7. Benn
    8. Toney
    9. Lacy
    10. Pal Park
     
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  12. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member booted Full Member

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    I like your list but i would put Calzaghe ahead of Froch.

    Also not really sure how to rate Roy Jones. Talent wise he could easily be #1, but level of competition wise at 168 i remember him fighting a lot of chumps like Bryant Brannon
     
  13. eltirado

    eltirado Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr. biggest legit career win was at 168

    The fight was between the top undefeated fighters. (Pernell never lost, but you get the point)

    November 1994 P4P list:
    1. Pernell Whitaker 33-1
    2. James Toney 44-0
    3. Roy Jones Jr. 26-0
     
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  14. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    These two happening during the same time period really makes BOTH look bad.
    1. Joe Calzaghe. Impressive 21 WBO Title defenses reign 1998-2007
    2. Sven Ottke. Impressive 21 IBF Title defenses reign 1998-2004
     
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  15. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward top wins at 168 are:

    Mikkel Kessler
    Allen Green
    Carl Froch
    Arthur Abraham
    Chad Dawson

    These are what makes Ward the best ever at 168?!?! o_O
     
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