Top 10 ATG List and Why Pac is #2

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It's not, you've got fight reports from primary accounts and also understandings of how they trained other fighters.

    Judging fighters off limited footage is a fools errand I've learnt.
     
  2. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Ok. You're the self made expert.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    No, there are people with much greater expertise than me on the matters, which is kinda the point.

    When footage is so limited and sparse, we have to go to the expert opinions, or the first hand materials those opinions are based on.
     
  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Look, I don't know about you, but I don't need to see 40 hours of crystal clear video footage of a fighter to determine if he's good or not. Watching 6 minutes of Dixon made me believe he would get whooped today. Yeah, he was old, older fighters lose reflexes, speed, punch resistance, but not form. Dixon's form was horrible. I implore every ESB member to watch Dixon vs Chester Leon. Come back here and give your opinion.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    He doesn't belong in the top 10 atg level. He fought through all those divisions for so long and your best win is MAB that speaks volumes and actually hurts him. And mab wasn't undefeated when he beat him either He waa seen as on his way down he had peaked years earlier. Good win but nothing to write home about either and certainly not good enough to say you're the GOAT with as your best win.
     
  6. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Pimp, mi amigo, let's be honest here. If Pacquiao ko'd Jesus Christ you'd say Christ was a 2,000yr old washed up carpenter.
     
  7. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

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    Damn hahaha name another guy who tore through 8 different divisions. 8 bruh. Hes still kicking ass till now at 42. I dont see no one else with 8 chips in 8 different divisions. THE ONLY 5 DIVISION LINEAL CHAMP. I guess running through entire divisions is worthless...
     
  8. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Facts.

    :risas3:
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No I wouldn't if he beat an elite atg. His best win over 8 weights is MAB that says alot about him . I'm sorry that's not good enough for Goat status and he failed miserably against the best fighter of the era in pbf. How the hell can you be the GOAT when you're not even the best fighter of your own era? It makes no sense if pbf had pacs resume no one here would be saying he was the GOAT people like pac so they overrate him and overlook his short comings. No one can even justify him being ranked ahead of srl I've said this time and time again and it's largely ignored.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Hopkins was how old when he retired hell he beat pascal at what 45??? Might as well and call him the GOAT. Lmfao
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Who cares??? It's about quality not quantity. Does he have a win over an elite atg during those weight jumps? Did he lose to guys he had no business losing to? Did he lose his biggest legacy fight wide? That matters more.
     
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  12. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

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    DAAAMN HAHAHA WHO CARES IF SOME DUDE DOMINATED FOR 20 OR SO PLUS YEARS? IN MORE THAN HALF OF ALL THE WEIGHT DIVISIONS AVAILABLE? WHO CARES IF HE WAS JUST A 5 DIVISION LINEAL CHAMP! Youre right my guy none of that matters hahaha none of that counts for anything hahaha while we're at it i guess we should suggest to the WBA/WBC/WBO/IBF to not just get rid of some belts, but all... CUZ NONE OF THAT MATTERS!
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yes and he lost and wasn't even the best of his era and his best win is MAB. Just call him the GOAT with that lmfao. Not good enough casual there have been better boxers who have done much more than him.
     
  14. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

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    You said "there have been better boxers who have done much more than him"... Name someone who is at least an 8 division world champ, a 5 division lineal champ? Simple question my guy. Since you aint a casual, im sure you know someone who has done MUCH MORE THAN HIM.
     
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    WTF? Is this really what these guys did back then? I never really watched anything super old like this. Had no idea I boxed better than the greats from back in the day. That's crazy!
     
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