Top 10 British fighters of all time

You don't see much about Dave Charnley on this forum, not even the British forum. Definitely one of our best to not win a world title.

 

Hatton has defended the World Championship against the probable #1 contender last Sunday.

Buchanan did fight well in parts and like you suggest held solid wins over Ortiz (as well as Watts and the Italian bloke) but Suzuki (Ishimatsu) beat him fairly convincingly when he did get an opportunity to shine near the very top once more.

If Hatton does in the end fail to hit Tszyu type form in this part of his career, then I will concede Ken tops him.

 

I think he would have given Buchanan a terrific fight .

 

The Buchanan that lost to Suzuki would still have beat the **** out of Malignaggi.

 

Notice a trend?

I tend to pick the solid guy over the one that gets their jaw unhinged by past it/mediocre fighters in their prime. :good

Really, given the fact that Lewis was poleaxed twice by average fighters whilst in his prime, and that he usually had a massive height, reach and weight advantage over his foes, what is so surprising in having Buchanan ranked above him?

 

Buchanan was hampered by a bad eye injury picked up in sparring against Suzuki.

he marked up badly very early on and his timing was all over the place because of it.I think he was slightly past his best anyway, but would have still expected him to beat Suzuki had he got a rematch sans injury.The fight was close imo, with suzuki only pulling it out late when Buchanan couldn't see any of the punches coming.

 

I thought record and resume had slightly different meanings, at least the way people use them around here.

From what I understand, record means just wins and losses. When talking resume, things like quality of opposition, titles and possible multi-weight success come into play...

Isn't that so?

 

I tend to favor fighters who comeback and gain revenge combined with longevity. What did Buchanan do of any signifcance at world level beyond the Duran whopping he took over 13 rounds? Buchanan was world lightweight champion for under 2 years. His dominance was good, but very brief. To have him over Lewis is a scandal.

 

Robbi, what would Lennox do if there was a Duran level fighter at heavyweight and there was only one belt there? Other than take a whooping over 6 or 7 rounds I mean?

The fact that Buchanan didn't hold the title for long means nothing in their comparison. You think Lewis would revenge a KO defeat (you know it would be by KO) to Duran in a rematch? Perhaps an old shot Duran. A prime Duran level fighter would mash Lewis. Plain and simple.

Buchanan faced and beat a good field of fighters and didn't suffer any humiliating setbacks like Lewis did in his prime.

Lewis has longevity on him, but still, Buchanan was world class for a full 9 years and in that time he legitimately lost one fight to the greatest fighter in the last 50 years.

Lewis was world class for about 11 years and in that time lost to two journeymen.

Do you want to tell me that the quality of the fighters Lewis beat is better than the quality of the fighters that Buchanan beat? I don't see it myself. Lewis did clear the decks in the heavyweight division, and Buchanan didn't face the likes of DeJesus and Viruet which he perhaps should have, but even still, I don't see his resume being inferior to Lewis'.

 

i'll just do top 10 in my lifetime cos unlike some i'm honest enough not to put in fighters i know nothing about, have never seen, and have just lifted the knowledge from other people on here.............


1. Lennox Lewis
2. Ken Buchanan ( been doing a bit of studying on this guy, impressive)
3. Joe Calzaghe
4. John Conteh
5. Nigel Benn
6. Ricky Hatton
7. Chris Eubank
8. Naseem Hamed
9. Michael Watson
10. LLoyd Honeyghan

I've considered Barry McGuigan Irish for this, otherwise he'd probably be between conteh and benn.
apologies for any i've missed, i make no pretence that i'm an expert .


edited-forgot lloyd honeyghan . told you i wasnt an expert.

 

i think 'top 10 british fighters in your lifetime'' is a good idea for a thread...But surely hayes linear title at cruiser is better than Brunos alphabet title at heavy...?

10 in my lifetime would be;

Joe Calzaghe
Lennox Lewis
Ricky Hatton
Lloyd Honeyghan
Nassem Hamed
David Haye
Nigel Benn
Chris Eubank
Johnny Nelson
Michael Watson

haye is high, because he was an linear champion, Britian has had few of them in recent years .

 

forgot honeyghan.
as far as haye goes, i see your point but i'm still not sold on him yet, id still have bruno above him at this stage cos i'm not convinced that haye isnt gonna crumble under a heavy punch to the chin. the jury is still out for me .

 

I suppose. It's called a CV then (in the UK).

 

I am not pretending to be 120 thus I never saw Wilde, but nearly everything I have read about him, suggests he is the Greatest British fighter ever. To ignore fighters you have not seen and not to rely on the opinions of others to judge, is to put a big flaw in your top 10 IMO.

 

Bob Fitzsimmons
Jimmy Wilde
Ted Kid lewis
Lennox Lewis
Benny lynch
Joe Calzaghe
Ken Buchanan
John Conteh
Randy Turpin
Ricky Hatton