Top 10 fighters Foreman beat ?

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  1. Sonny's jab

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    Not too many big names ......

    1. Joe Frazier
    2. Ken Norton
    3. Michael Moorer
    4. Ron Lyle
    5. George Chuvalo
    6. Alex Stewart
    7. Gregorio Peralta
    8. Adilson Rodrigues
    9. Dwight Qawi
    10. Boone Kirkman

    ...... have I missed anyone ?
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    No, I don't believe you've missed anyone, however you could extend the list and add, John Dino Denis, Pierre Coetzer, Jose Roman, Scott Ledoux, Crawford Grimsley, Gerry Cooney. and Lou Savarese.
     
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  3. Sonny's jab

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    Of course, down at the lower end of the top 10 you can have Pierre Coetzer, Scott LeDoux, Dino Dennis, Lou Savarese or Gerry Cooney or another also-ran if you prefer.
     
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    It has always been my contention that George was very protected early on and by necessity chose powder puffs early in his comeback. I guess Axel Shulz may squeeze in there.
     
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  5. Sonny's jab

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    Yes, Schulz probably deserves a place.

    My top 6 or 7 are about right, the last 3 are interchangeable with many others.

    Foreman definitely hand-picked his opponents in his comeback. Even some of the mediocre journeymen (like Mike Jameson, for example) were picked because they hadn't fought in a year or two, or were given just a couple of weeks notice. Apparently Foreman turned down a few offered to him too, and they were not world class.

    His first career is more or less the same story. Lots of fodder.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    The Cooney George fought is well above Qawi for the simple fact that he had massive power. Qawi had zero to hurt George with.
     
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  7. Sonny's jab

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    Well, Qawi certainly did better than Cooney, IMO at least.

    And I think he was more of a "live" fighter at the time. Cooney came off a 3-year retirement (after getting KO'd by Spinks) and had only fought four times since the Holmes fight 8 years earlier.

    Qawi was at least active. He was however a midget blown-up light-heavy, coming in on 2 weeks notice, clearly out-of-shape and obviously well over-matched.

    :lol:

    It's hard to say who's better. Foreman sure knew how to pick 'em.
     
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  8. mr. magoo

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    True, However in the case of the Mike Jameson fight, He took that bout as a maintenance match between Cooney in January of 1990, and Adilson Rodriguez in June of the same year. He fought Jameson in March or April that Spring, and I remember hearing him say before the fight, that the Rodrigeuz bout was already signed.

    That being said, of course he wasn't going to take on anybody except a journeyman type. I also saw George fight Canadian champ Ken Lakusta and big puncher Terry Anderson that same year, shortly before he signed to fight Holyfield.
     
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  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Pity Frazier didn't. If he did, he wouldn't have been mashed. :hey
     
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  10. Sonny's jab

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    None of them were much good. Rodrigues wasn't exactly a world-beater.

    Apparently the Foreman-Anderson fight was in London. I cant remember Foreman fighting here in 1990 ! Then again, maybe there was a lot going on in boxing at the time, and I'm getting old now my memory is fading.
     
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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    LOL. Foreman and Anderson did fight in London as I recall. George knocked him out cold, and then asked the ref if he was alright :lol:
     
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  12. Street Lethal

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    I thought he beat Briggs.
     
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  13. Sonny's jab

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    Frazier picked a few easy touches when he was champ. Daniels and Stander for example.
    But you cant fight tomato cans all the time.
    Foreman managed two defences, then got it wrong with Ali. When you're champ there's always someone out there.
     
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  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed,

    If nothing else, that bout should have at least been ruled a draw. Then again, a lot of folks ( including myself ) felt he received a gift against Axel Schultz. I guess what goes around comes around.
     
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  15. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Rodrigues was rated by the WBC. So Foreman beat one rated fighter and a 'name' then clinched a shot at the crown. No real difference to what Holmes or Tyson did. And they were young men!
     
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