Top 10 fighters Foreman beat ?

To be fair you would have to resort to including some lesser names with other great champions like Marciano, Liston or Frazier.

 

In all fairness, Tyson beat some pretty good fighters before recieving his first shot at Berbick's WBC title. He squared off with Marvis Frazier, Jose Ribalta, James Tillis, Mitch Green and Jesse Ferguson. None of whom were great, but they were at least decent, and a few of them might even have been rated as well.

Holmes was undefeated in 27 pro fights, and had wins over Roy Williams and Earnie Shavers. Plus, for whatever it's worth, he was a long time sparring partner for Ali and Frazier. Also, you didn't really have a whole lot of young talent in 1978, which is partially why Norton was awarded the vacant WBC.

 

or Dempsey

 

Probably not with Dempsey.

You would be able to get ten names who were clearly world class. Same with Jack johnson, Joe Louis or Muhamad Ali.

In Dempseys case I could say-

1. Jack Sharkey
2. Billy Miske
3. Tommy Gibbons
4. Jess Willard
5. Fred Fulton
6. Luis Firpo
7. Gunboat Smith
8. Bill Brenan
9. Battling Levinsky
10. Georges Carpinter

and every one was world class at the time Dempsey beat them

 

shoot then

edit: you pre-empted (sp?) my request

 

fair point, it all depends on who was ranked and who wasnt at that time (ca. 20's)

certainly not as bad as Foreman's list but not on a par with Louis, Ali, Lewis or even Holmes

 

Now if I do the same for Rocky Marciano I have to scrape the bottom of the barel a bit past 7.

1. Joe Walcott
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Archie Moore
4. Joe Louis
5. Rex Layne
6. Roland LaStraza
7. Harry Kid Mattews
8. Don Cockle
9. Lee Savold
10. Johny Shkor

 

I agree with Janitor.

It's very difficult to find a great champion who has faced 10 or more truly great opponents ( save of course, Muhammad Ali ). The fact that Foreman had quality wins over Frazier, Norton, Lyle, Moorer, Chuvalo, Stewart, Denis, and Savarese, Is actually enough of a legacy in my opinion.

 

Of course. Sonny's Jab knew that knew that. But none of those guys mashed Frazier, so they're not worth picking on. :good

 

Exactly, and how many fighters can we list whom Frazier beat?

1. Ali
2. Elis
3. Quarry
4. Bonavena
5. Mathis
6. Foster
7. Stander
8. Zygliewitz
9. Daniels
10. Bugner

Okay, pretty good list I guess.

 

Well, top 4 were good anyway. Foster was obviously an ATG light heavy. But not a million miles from George's.

 

Top 10 Fighters that Ali beat:

1. Foreman
2. Frazier 2x
3. Norton 2x
4. Liston 2x
5. Patterson 2x
6. Quarry 2x
7. Lyle
8. Shavers
9. Bonevena
10. Chuvalo

Find me a better list at HW and I'll let you lease the Holland Tunnel for a year.

Tyson's 10:

1. Holmes
2. Spinks
3. Ruddock 2x
4. Bruno 2x
5. Tucker
6. Golota
7. Thomas
8. Botha
9. Biggs
10. Berbick

Holyfield @ HW

1. Tyson 2x
2. Bowe
3. Moorer
4. Holmes
5. Foreman
6. Mercer
7. Rahman
8. Dokes
9. Ruiz
10. Oquendo

Lewis

1. Tyson
2. Holyfield (should be 2x)
3. Bruno
4. Golota
5. Klitschko
6. Mercer
7. Morrison
8. Ruddock
9. Grant
10. Botha


Adds perspective to top ten lists.