Top 10 greatest middleweight contenders ever

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  1. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thread title is “Top 10 greatest middleweight contenders ever”, yes ever, that’s in the whole of boxing history.
    How, by any stretch of the imagination when looking at his resume can you include Papp?
    A great contender generally had to have longevity, have fought other contenders, fought for the title, generally giving a good account of himself in a losing effort. Papp was none of these, although we all know he was a great amateur.
    Just concede, Papp should be nowhere near the list.
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Talking lineal and discounting ABC's Nigel Benn was ok even if not top 10. Mike McCallum was never lineal either.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Were you talking lineal Jel?
     
  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really enjoyed this subject matter, Jel and really enjoying the way it is playing out. If you do the other divisions, I'm in.
     
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  5. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you know I started to reply to this. but then thought ,why am I wasting my time responding to a muppet who has no idea who George Benton was?
    You are,without doubt the most stupid and ignorant poster that I have ever encountered on this Forum.
    Nobody ever agrees with you, and many try to inform you, but you remain as stupid as you were when you first surfaced because you cannot be told anything ,and you cannot ever be wrong.

    You Sir are a complete CRETIN and a total waste of time.
     
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  6. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    I was including ABCs as legit World titles so Nigel Benn wouldn't count as a contender because of the WBO title.
     
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  7. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    Always enjoy your contributions, my friend. Yours, McVey's and McGrain's lists in this thread are all excellent.
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm flattered to be included in such exalted company!
     
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  9. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    Names mentioned so far (60):

    Mike Gibbons
    Tommy Gibbons
    Leo Houck
    Charley Burley
    Charley Mitchell
    Philadelphia Jack O' Brien
    Holman Williams
    Eddie Booker
    Jack Chase
    Bert Lytell
    Jeff Smith
    Aaron Wade
    Dave Sands
    Dave Shade
    Steve Belloise
    Les Darcy
    Bennie Briscoe
    Ruben Carter
    Henry Hank
    George Benton
    Joey Archer
    Tony Mundine Snr
    Jock McAvoy
    Len Harvey
    Bert Gilroy
    Michael Watson
    Herol Graham
    Tony Sibson
    John Mugabi
    Juan Roldan
    Fulgencio Obelmajis
    Mustafa Hamsho
    Eugene Hart
    Willie Monroe
    Lamar Parks
    Jack Dillon
    Billy Conn
    Laszlo Papp
    Sam Langford
    Ezzard Charles
    Archie Moore
    Georgie Abrams
    Luis Rodriguez
    Holly Mims
    Robert Villemain
    Howard Eastman
    Martin Murray
    Edison Miranda
    Jean-Claude Bouttier
    Jeff Clarke
    Bobby Watts
    Sugar Ray Seales
    Jock McAvoy
    Artie Towne
    Ron Richards
    Jose Basora
    Kid Tunero
    Eduardo Lausse
    Nate Bolden
    Tommy Yarosz
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Paul Williams
    Winky Wright
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cheers mate.
     
  13. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    Well is seems you are very used in ignorance, much more than I even can imagine...

    Though I have read this name probably, but sounds like an actor (or A-Team and Breakfest of TIffany), these are not name you have to know to be into boxing, as them are mostly irrelevant. Papp was scheduled for a mandatory world title fights, so it appears the people from his generation regarded him as the clear better boxer.

    Well you not even know some boxers which are currantly relevant or not so far in the past, but you discredit them because of their nationality or place of living/ growing up (maybe promotion).

    I'm not so thankfull that I have to teach him every few weak the same facts, as I did before repeatedly and he try the cheap shots permanent again and again, often to the same subjects (like this one too).
     
  14. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fully Obel was gifted two shots at Hagler on no merit whatsoever except his connections (or his manager’s).
     
  15. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! Full Member

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    He not only fought for the title, he held it of a whole continent for four years. Plus he was undefeated and the top contender around 1961. #
    How many of the previous listed boxers didn't get a shot? I think about half of it. So why you folks moan this about Papp? The only reason why he didn't get it and won it was political.
    Accoring to your interpretation we can't rate Charly Burley or Holman Williams as contender, because they never fought for any title...

    So you are just wrong..., wrong!
     


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