Top 10 greatest middleweights of all time

Get rid of Fitz.

I think most of the blokes who know a lot more than myself will happily incorperate the other 9 in their top 10.

Nice list mate.

 

Good list overall. IN terms of the fighters I can't really fault it. I'd put Jones over Hopkins for head-to-head reasons, though and maybe Walker a little higher.

 

no sam langford?

 

O dear lord. Marcel Cerdan over Jake Lamotta?atsch Lamotta not only has the much better resume, he also holds a dominant win over cerdan.


Here check for yourself you can clearly see lamotta is dominating cerdan before the injury even happens. Lamotta is credited in the ring record books for flooring cerdan in the first round with a left hook too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onb-p3YsQk8

 

Says who? What film have you seen of Jake Lamotta in his prime? here check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0ptRgVF1uc



Lamotta had 3 superhuman traits that made him special. He has Hercules like strength(you could not move him backwards), he was like a human windmill(he never got tired throwing punches), he had the best chin of all time(he could not be floored). So basically lamotta if he wanted too could charge right into you and beat you down not having to worry about getting hurt or getting tired.


Lamottas defense: VERY UNDERRATED. check that video. Lamotta had very good headmovement, in fact he moved his head better than most in history. He was very cute and adapt at slipping jabs, see the robinson fight. lamotta also blocked body punches very well with his elbows. lamotta was quite the cagey fellow on defense, and the way he played possumm to trick his opponents was a thing of beauty.

Marcel cerdan did not step up to top comptetiton very long. When he did, he lost to cyrille dellanoit, he was knocked down 3 times by journeyman anton raddick and lucky to make it out of the ring chicago tribune called that decision "Very disputed". He was knocked down, beaten up, then thrown to the ground, then mauled by jake lamotta in a one sided beating. cerdan also avoided fighting most of the top middleweights of the 1940s, especially the murders row. Jake took on a whole slew of murders row.

Cerdan was very very good. Classic Boxer-Puncher with very good but not great traits, but Lamotta had great traits. His style would have always beaten cerdan, and I think it matches up better vs the rest of the field than cerdan's.

A little hypocritcal dont you think considering Lamotta beat the # 4 and the # 8 on your list while cerdan beat NO ONE on your list. Lamotta already proved he could beat two guys on your list, while cerdan did not.

 

If lamotta showed up in the same hungry, non weight drained form like he did in the first fight...He would have beat the **** out of marcel again. it would have been same thing. Marcel trying to match lamotta physically, and lamotta manhandling him around and swarming him with punches. Marcel technically was BRILLIANT, but Marcel didnt like lamotta because jake didnt give him any room to breathe. Marcel needed room to get off his punchs. jake did not give him room. Lamotta was cuter than alot give him credit for, the man could take any punch but he also could slip any punch as well.

 

good list overall though DMT.

1. Carlos Monzon
2. Marvin Hagler
3. Harry Greb
4. Sugar Ray Robinson
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Stanley Ketchel
7. Charley Burley
8. Lloyd Marshall
9. Jake Lamotta
10. Dick Tiger

 

Mcgrain, I have him right there at # 12. Hes right there, he deserves to be top 10, sometimes I feel like replacing him with Tiger. Marshalls huge dominant wins over Lamotta(at 160) and ezzard charles(right around the time charles twice beat burley at 160), plus Burley himself at 160 all do it for me. Plus I have film of lloyd marshall past his prime in 1946 and he looks great. He looks like a offensive version of archie moore on film.


One could also make a case Eddie Booker deserves to be higher than both Holman Williams AND Lloyd marshall AND charley burley