Top 10 H2H HW Era champions in history

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  1. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Has Uncle Clemmy ever posted something without size or weight mentioned in it?
     
  2. Unforgiven

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  3. uncletermite

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    If I included guys like Valuev/Morrison/Bowe/Golota/Briggs/Ruddock etc...etc...guys like frazier/Louis and Marciano wouldn't even make the list in H2H matches! :roll:
     
  4. RazzAxx

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    Vitali and Tyson better than Lewis? hahahahahahahaaaaaaa
     
  5. janitor

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    My thoughts:

    Head to head between fighters from different eras is pure fantasy, because we can’t even predict the outcomes of fights between fighters from the same era. If you can, then you don’t need to work for a living. That is why I spend a lot more time comparing resumes.

    There is a consensus that Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali, are the two greatest heavyweights of all time in terms of resume.

    Given that they are such standouts in terms of number of world class fighters beaten, and sheer consistency against world class opposition over time, I am minded to think that they are also the two standouts in head to head terms.

    This would be especially true, if you measured head to head in terms of results against a common group of opponents.
     
  6. uncletermite

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    Both guys who k.od Lewis were at one time were Tyson sparring partners...McCall was his main one . :roll:
     
  7. uncletermite

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    The reality is boxing is the easiest sport to determine winner because its only 2 guys with limited rules and techniques statistically matching how a fighter did with a certain one /age height/weight all come into play.Simply watching pure video can determine how a fighter may or may not do in another era or against a certain fighter...this is not scorcery as many make it out to be...unlike team sports with much more variables and statistics invlolved...This had been done already in the 69/70 when they did Ali vs Marciano...its was VERY EASY to do. Most wont like the outcomes in MOST of any modern vs past fighters that is the biggest reality.

    Anything could happen in a fight but to say it is difficult to come up with some sort of reasoning to a winner is false.
     
  8. latineg

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    I think its scorcery and you should be burnt at the stake slowly while ESB does a RBR after warning us not to request any links :rasta
     
  9. janitor

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    You obviously can’t predict the outcome of boxing matches, because if you could, you would make your living betting on them.

    Do you think that it would even be profitable for bookmakers to offer odds on boxing matches, if anybody could predict the outcome with some degree of accuracy?
     
  10. uncletermite

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    So let me get this straight if you do not make a living off of Boxing betting,you are incapable of common sense opinions or reasonable breakdowns of two fighters? :nut


    What does sports betting have to do with matching past time era fighters in a boxing match anyway? You are indeed the biggest coo coo bird on the site....no offense! :patsch




    By the way Bookies make tons of money based on the odds they give,thats why they are the bookies!There wouldn't be sports betting if they were losing money would they? :-(
     
  11. janitor

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  12. dinovelvet

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    Replace #1 with Chris Byrd and #4 with either Purrity , Sanders , Williamson or Brewster.

    The reality H2H results are up on boxec. This is the real world we're living in.
     
  13. kingfisher3

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    the reason very few people can make a career betting on just boxing is because there are so few fights and mostly at such short odds that you would already need to be rich for the small % gains to add up to a reasonable income.

    I love boxing and make my living betting sports, but pay very little attention to betting boxing for that reason. Do I spend the majority of my time on wta because i know more about it than boxing? no, it's because there are many more events per week and upsets are far more common (due to boxing being full of uncompetitive fights while tennis players face whoever comes out in the draw)

    bookies make a profit because of the spread and because of the majority of bettors awful(actually non existent because their bets aren't in a system) money managment and staking strategies, i.e I can offer someone 3/1 on coin tosses, but if they are betting variable amounts, chasing losses or going all in I will come out ahead even tho the odds favor them.
     
  14. uncletermite

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    Why bettors don't bet boxing ...this ^^^^^^^^^^