Top 10 Heavyweights of all time

1. Jack Johnson
2. Ali.
3. Louis
4. Marciano
5. Holmes
6. Dempsey
7. Holyfield
8. Tyson
9. Lewis
10.Foreman

 

You beat me to it!:good

 

How can anyone have Holyfield above Lewis?

Or Tyson in the top 10?

 

A case could be made if you count his cruiser career.
But definitely not as a heavyweight.

 

Hard to know !

How could he NOT be ?

 

nice list ... of course, but based on which facts actually.

you simply can't compare fighters from different generations, how does it come that world records in track and fields, swimming or wherever have gone through the roof whereas all the boxers have become worse ... it just doesn't make any sense.

Vitali Klitschko from today probably kills Joe Lewis from the thirties, but we will never see this fight, right? If vitali lived in thirties would he have been the athlete he is today?Probably not! and so on .... and so on ...

Those lists can be based on everybodies individual excitement of the respective fighters but we should mix up those impressions with facts.

 

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Dempsey
4. Foreman
5. Holmes
6. Marciano
7. Holyfield
8. Johnson
9. Liston
10. Frazier

 

atschatsch

Because Holyfield actually beat two of the other four top guys in the era (Tyson and Bowe) when it mattered, not when they were old and ready to be taken, as Lewis did with Holyfield and Tyson.

Oh, and he was never taken out early in th early rounds by second-rate fighters, either. In fact, he was never taken out early period!

What's ridiculous is ranking Lewis above Holyfield, not visa versa. Lewis is perhaps the most overrated HW champ of all time.

 

I'm a fan of both Klitschkos. They are the current two top heavys.
I don't see either one on any list so far.

But you felt the need to get a dig in on a thread that wasn't about the Klitschkos, where no one but you brought up the Klitschkos?

And the "**** makes you laugh?"

You starting to laugh at imaginary ****, now?







1. Ali
2. Louis
3/4. Lewis/Foreman

5/6, Marciano/Holmes

7. Liston
8. Tyson.
9. Frazier
10. Patterson

(List only goes back to Joe Louis days)

 

1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Evander Holyfield
4. Lennox Lewis (he caught both Holyfield and Tyson past their primes, otherwise...)
5. George Foreman
6. Joe Frazier
7. Rocky Marciano
8. Larry Holmes
9. Jack Johnson
10. Jack Dempsey

 

In my opinion if Lennox Lewis isnt on your list something is seriously wrong, im suprised
theres a few people who dont have him in it and yet theres people who have him as high as no3.

 

Ken Norton, a great fighter?atsch. That jello-jawed pretty boy got butchered by every big puncher he ever faced. The Klits would have decapitated that overated fraud. Foreman was the first of the truly big, powerful men with heavy hands and athletic skills to come along and so yes he destroyed the cruiserweight, short-armed Frazier. The huge modern superheavies like Lewis and the Klits mow through those diminuative cruiserweights from the past. Little people should not fight big people. It's really that simple.

 

No order because I feel differently everyday

Louis (25 defenses, never will be broken)
Ali (Nuff said)
Marciano (49-0, beat everyone he could, nuff said)
Holmes (20 defenses)
Lewis (Beat everyone he could, 3 time champ)
Tyson (10 defenses and was a beast in his prime)
Holyfield (4 time HW champ even if the 4th was against Ruiz)
Frazier (Relentless, beat Ali)
Foreman (Monster...won title in his 40's)
Dempsey (Mean and tough as ****)

 

Few thoughts on this post....I actually think that the idea that fighters today are better than fighters from the 40's by default - based on superior training regimen etc, is a borderline myth.

I am genuinely unsure on the matter, but this sport aint the 100m dash. Fighters in the 20's went 15 fast paced rounds and showed lovely skills. You have to have a very keen eye to compare two elite fighters from our era and another era and spot a real gap in standard.

Its very difficult in this sport. Plus, fighters were in great shape in the 40's as well, another intangible here is the weight classes in boxing. Other sports move ahead lightyears over time due to athletes putting on muscle and essentially being bigger, stronger and faster. Again, not in this sport.

You cant look at Willie Pep and tell me he would lose to todays crop simply because of era differences. Still, its a difficult subject. I think that the overall standard today is higher, but the fighters that rose to the very top in era's gone by were justy as good as todays guys. I may well be wrong.

Regardless of all this, you can only really compare fighters against the opposition of their time. Louis is of course a far greater champion than Vitali is, despite the fact some people feel Vitali would beat him.

 

Lewis didn't lose to lhw, fat middlweights and some of the least talented boxers of the past decade, you really are the worst poster ever when it comes to lewis. It's funny how you bring up the smallest things in lewis's career yet miss out the half the **** in holyfields.:verysad